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16 November 2011 @ 11:14 am
Bleach 473 is Up  
Bleach 473 is up at MangaStream.

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tick-tockingscuttling on November 16th, 2011 10:35 pm (UTC)
HOPING FOR JACKIE. And a Rukia inner world rather than possession but slkdfmds.

Baw, bracing myself for Tsukishima properly dying. I wonder why KT gave him ten minutes, but I'm hoping wildly that it's so Shishi will find him and have a last scene. Ideally not a last scene, but, bracing!

Aw Renji dlfkgd lol Hitsugaya (and lol Hitsugaya and Yukio who obviously knows more than he's saying). GOOD CHAPTER I PLEASED. lol Ishida. I'm not bothered, though. He's there, he'll hear it, good times.
Phoenix Hawk's Deep Corefmphoenixhawk on November 17th, 2011 12:27 am (UTC)
Real enemy = Batman. Or some crap about fighting his inner self or some shit.

Well, I wouldn't mind seeing Rukia's inner world. Wonder if she runs around in a frilly dress in there? A real girly-girl outfit. I would laugh my armor plating off.

Tsuki's dead because he was too dumb to live. Well, dumb enough to appeal to Byauka's emotions. Moron.

Overall, a good chapter. Am anticipating next week. Will it be out before Turkey Day?
カイロンスターchironstar on November 17th, 2011 03:57 am (UTC)
dumb enough to appeal to Byauka's emotions. Moron.

IKR? Of all people, Byakuya's probably the worst opponent for Tsuki...
♀*La Muerte Chiquita*♀: badass presidentla_kalaka on November 17th, 2011 05:19 am (UTC)

Man, not even a surprise face, goddamit! I feel Ishida-deprived.

BTW it was a nice touch when Tsuki clenched his hand after Byakuya's answer. I imagined some thing like that, after all Tsukishima is all about bonds and bonding with others as the most important person in their lives. It would be so great for him to be the most loved, there are a reason for it behind that power.

Was he a lonely, meaningless guy for the world who desired to be the most important person? Mmmh, that's at least good for a fic :3

kohi_no_torakohi_no_tora on November 17th, 2011 06:39 am (UTC)
If it helps I think I know exactly where Ishida is. On one of those rooftops somewhere playing sniper... and cursing Ichigo because every time he lines up a shot at Ginjo Ichigo charges in and ruins the shot.
♀*La Muerte Chiquita*♀: Chadapprovesla_kalaka on November 17th, 2011 07:23 am (UTC)
thanks for the inspiration, I'm gonna draw that! <3
Adam Eppadam_epp on November 17th, 2011 07:09 pm (UTC)
I like Kubo's answer for how to defeat Tsuki's ability: you just need to be a heartless bastard, more or less. Yeah, I know Byakuya isn't really heartless, but it worked.

The chapter was a nice break from all the fight-heavy chapters we've gotten recently; this is the type of chapter I thought was sorely missing in Hueco Mundo.

Things aren't all good, though. Something odd obviously happened between Rukia and Riruka, and I doubt I'll like the outcome. For the moment, Kubo seems to have continued his trend of screwing over the main characters, and I don't like seeing Rukia as the only Shinigami to get knocked out. Lame. Ginjou's revelation that there's a real bad guy Ichigo should be fighting made me laugh and roll my eyes. It's a shounen, of course there's someone else lined up to fight. My only hope is that it isn't a brand-new, shallow group of characters that Kubo will use to pad out his series (yet again). With some luck, the new arc will (finally) be about the Royal Guard and then, maybe, Kubo will have the sense to finish Bleach once and for all.

But didn't he say the series might go on for another ten years?

_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on November 17th, 2011 08:59 pm (UTC)

But the point is that Byakuya showed us in these chapters that he's NOT heartless--he's grown. He ENJOYS fights. He has a BOND and a loyalty to KUROSAKI ICHIGO of all people. He's just got the stamina and nerve and devotion to principle to choose one man and what he stands for (Ichigo who changed Bya's world and means so much to beloved Rukia, Byakuya's PRIDE) over another man (Tsuki as false implantation training partner/mentor).

I don't know what you mean by a break from fight-heavy chapters--the fights have been quick and painless so far. Very fast and efficient and last week's fight was superior imv. This chapter was comic relief which has been hit & miss in this arc. It was hit this time (Shinigami repartee was excellent) and provided some needed exposition and dangled stuffs to come.

Rukia being knocked out is lame if it ends there--as it is it's only prolonging the inevitable Riruka/Rukia confrontation/battle w/Riruka turning, gaining a true heart, whatever.

If you really want Bleach to end so much, all you have to do is stop reading it.
(Anonymous) on November 18th, 2011 12:24 pm (UTC)
I hope all future villains are disposed of in as believable a manner.
kari_izumikari_izumi on November 21st, 2011 12:00 pm (UTC)
I haven't followed the manga for a while due to deployments (I usually just catch up in one big bunch, as I well this week), but it's felt to me that this series has lost focus for a while, like Kubo doesn't know when/how to end it.

I guess I'm saying I'm hoping that this new arc will build on some of the plots we saw in the previous two...liek a progression of things. An example being Yuugioh's evolution from "Game of the week" to Card Kingdom arc, which led to Seto's tournament and the God Cards, which ultimately led to revealing Yami no Yuugi's past. Something along those lines. I have a line waiting for my computer, so I'm in a rush to describe what I'm getting at, but I hope that explains it.
tamzin: western ringoconquistadora on November 18th, 2011 12:14 am (UTC)
It's oh-so-tempting to fall in love with a chapter blindly simply because people are carrying Rukia's tiny body around, especially if it's Niisama--MOEMINDSPLOSION.... but I will resist... probably. XD

This really was a comic-relief chapter as stated above, but then there were some shaded areas here and there to try and bring things back to relativity. Hitsugaya holding Yuko captive was sort of cute in a way? It's really like watching two kids playing--and the sore loser is a bitter, wimpy, sarcastic brat obviously. Honestly, I'm sort of disappointed that Hitsugaya is so forgiving. Somebody needs to smack Yukio around a little or at least lecture him the way Ikkaku did with Sushi.

Speaking of Sushi-chan... I would honestly be moved if he went and helped Tsukishima. Sure, Tsukishima wouldn't save Sushi, but the fact that Sushi would save someone that wouldn't save him, isn't that what Heart is all about? Yeah, it's a stupid move rationally speaking, but it's what Ichigo would do. Tsukishima did all that to his family and friends but he's still got that horrified look at the prospect of someone dying because of his actions or because he isn't there to stop it. The Dome will never die. It's a part of Ichigo and it's a testament to who and what he is. He has the power to kill, but that's not how he wants to 'win.' You can call it naiveté, but it's him. And even if Sushi is all depressed/heart-broken from his lecture, he isn't a bad kid. I don't think it's in his nature to abandon someone he cares about even if it's an (seemingly) unrequited bromance.

Personally, I don't mind SS going back to being the 'bad guys.' It brings things full circle and the RR has been hinted at being the next stop for a while. HM was really just a long (ass) walk in the land of the damned--and what came of that was nothing but pity and empathy for people and souls that had been abandoned or done the abandoning, whether it be their 'selves', hearts, or nakama. All that too is coming full circle, or should I say, it's going to carry on throughout the story til the end (probably). Aizen's words are being echoed, blatantly, now through GInjou. Aizen was able to shake Ichigo with this, but in the end, it didn't work. Then again, Aizen was never able to present the 'other/true enemy' as an option for Ichigo. He never got around to explaining to Ichigo why things were so wrong with the world, only the passing phrase about "that thing," before he was silenced. Even so, at the end of Deicide, Ichigo turned his head as if he didn't want to hear it. So, here's hoping that Ginjou is now going to expose what Aizen was getting at, and this time Ichigo won't have the option of turning away from a possible truth, or at least, a different perspective.

Riruka inside Rukia's inner-world... seeing Rukia's inner-world... seeing Sode' there... I don't even want to think about it. If I get my hopes up I'm going to be so sad if it doesn't happen. But if it does--IT WILL BE AMAZING. And also the first canon look into another Shinigami's inner-world. That is something.
(Anonymous) on November 18th, 2011 12:38 pm (UTC)
It occurs to me that while Tsukishima was a parody of the annoying type of Marty Sue who rewrites canon so as to have always been a member of the main cast, possibly even replacing another cast member, Ginjou is a parody of the Copy Cat Sue.

Also, I don't think Rukia is going to be rescued because no one knows what's wrong.
(Anonymous) on November 22nd, 2011 12:43 am (UTC)
Question: if the shinigami were all ordered to leave the humans alive, why did duty-bound Byakuya kill Tsukishima instead of trying to reason with him as Rukia tried to reason with Riruka?
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on November 24th, 2011 09:26 am (UTC)

I believe each of the Shinigami act according to their own principles. Rukia seems to follow the SS law to the hilt. Bya seems to follow some older Samurai noble code of honor where you kill your opponent--it's just the honorable way or something. Ikkaku did make a deathblow at Yukio before the fights were matched up and chided Ichigo for going too soft on everyone. I don't know if SS specifically ordered the humans to be left alive--just left the captains to their best judgement, which varies from captain to captain.