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13 November 2011 @ 07:33 pm
CrunchyRoll & Copyright  
Hello fellow Bleach fans.  I am not sure if this is the proper place to post this question, but I am hoping so & that I will receive a few responses.  I watch the Anime on Crunchyroll, free, which means I watch the episodes one week behind their Japanese release.  I have received my 2nd cease and desist notice from Comcast for copyright infringement.  I thought these were legal and authorized broadcasts?  If so, what then is going on?  Thanks.
Current Mood: irritatedirritated
Kim!: Mushroom Mushroomspartydragon on November 14th, 2011 03:58 am (UTC)
They are 100% legal. I have never had any trouble with Comcast and Crunchyroll (even before CR was legit), so it might just be your area is behind the times. I recommend sending them a very polite letter informing them that CR is has been legit for a couple of years now, and that they should really check into these things before sending out C&D's. Politely.
林: shikatanaihaya5h1 on November 14th, 2011 04:05 am (UTC)
Maybe you should contact Crunchyroll and ask them what to do? They probably have had to deal with this before.
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Kim!spartydragon on November 14th, 2011 04:25 am (UTC)
They do... but only for REALLY heavy usage. Like, if you're using up a TON of of bandwidth. Which, uh... means someone would have to be pirating a LOT of stuff to garner enough attention to get a C&D. ^-^;;
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phiredropsphiredrops on November 14th, 2011 04:02 pm (UTC)
I think it matters more for which type of highspeed you have. DSL is an individual line, one household downloading a shitton isn't going to slow the network that much. However, with cable (Comcast) one household downloading or streaming a lot will slow everyone in the neighborhood who is using the service.

I'd also check to make sure you aren't on any monthly/weekly data cap, OP.
marajskymarajsky on November 14th, 2011 11:27 am (UTC)
I also have Comcast and watch CR on a daily basis, I never got a letter from Comcast. Call them and ask what the hell is going on, just like the one comment, tell Comcast CR is a legal service, give them the www address so the can check it out for themselfs.
Sorry, can you put the music louder?: Roxas / Meganestellarabyss on November 14th, 2011 03:07 pm (UTC)
I don't think using Crunchyroll is your problem. Do you or anyone else in your household download any anime from animesuki or like sites? Do you download music or anything else? They tend to send out C&D's for using a lot of bandwidth.

But like the others have said contact Comcast and ask what's going on.
oh gallant piglet,aizome on November 14th, 2011 03:50 pm (UTC)
It's Comcast. They did this to a friend of mine, claiming she'd been downloading movies when she hadn't been. They listed titles of films she wouldn't even WANT to watch, much less DL, and listed dates when she wasn't even at home.

Comcast sucks. Kick them to the curb and get a new provider, if you can.
Kim!: Mushroom Mushroomspartydragon on November 15th, 2011 01:25 am (UTC)
Did she have a wireless router? Someone might've been stealin' her internets and using up a lotta bandwidth.
oh gallant piglet,aizome on November 15th, 2011 02:48 am (UTC)
I seem to recall her saying she had cable, but I could be wrong. Either way though, I've heard nothing but horror stories about Comcast from friends. We're sticking with a somewhat spotty local provider instead of Comcast, since the latter's customer service is pretty atrocious in my neck of the woods.
astridstarr00astridstarr00 on November 15th, 2011 03:15 am (UTC)
Yeah, I've heard some pretty bad stuff on comcast. TBH I haven't really had too much trouble with them myself. I do remember looking into another isp before, but as I mentioned in my comment below that it's easier said than done.

And a lot of the smaller/local companies can be just as bad, or at least from what friends tell me.

So, I guess most cable/isp's are just pretty bad in general?
oh gallant piglet,aizome on November 15th, 2011 03:27 am (UTC)
I'm sure a lot does depend on where a person lives, yeah.

We're lucky around here. It's the middle of freaking nowhere, but our tiny local ISP has some pretty cool people. If you call them, you actually talk to a human being (and one with a sense of humor to boot). Comcast came in later and has tried to run them out of business, but so far, that has failed. \o/
Kim!: Nose Ponies!!!!spartydragon on November 15th, 2011 01:15 pm (UTC)
It's pretty hit and miss. When I was living up in Portland Comcast was usually the lesser of several evils and generally considered to be the most reliable. Where I'm living now, there's two small, local companies that are, well horribly overpriced, and are VERY reluctant to let you JUST get internet from them (they're hellbent on selling you a bundle - which would be fine, except their cable and phone services are considerably more expensive, and considerably less comprehensive than Comcast & Verizon). Where my 'rents used to live down in Cali, there was only the crazy phone company who charged an arm and a leg for dial up and DSL, would disconnect you for no particular reason, and charge you another arm and a leg (not to mention make you wait over a week...) to reactivate. Everyone was waiting with baited breath for Comcast to come and put 'em out of business. X)
kari_izumikari_izumi on November 22nd, 2011 03:16 am (UTC)
Comcast sucks. Kick them to the curb and get a new provider, if you can.

Late to the party, but seriously.....this. AT&T for all their outrageous fees for their phone services have a pretty decent DSL service and all three times my internet dropped off in the two years I had the service, I was able to merely reset my modem and it would work again in twenty minutes (vice resetting the modem and still having to wait as long as four hours with Comcast).
Skyla Doragono: Nom nom Fornicarasskyla_doragono on November 14th, 2011 07:18 pm (UTC)
Quite a few companies will do this. Really, mostly what they're complaining about is the bandwidth you use to stream the Crunchyroll videos.

If possible, go with a different ISP. Most of the smaller, local companies won't give two shits. Watch out for Service Electric and Blue Ridge if you're in the PA area, though. SE will send out C&D letters (citing the incorrect complaining company, no less) and BR will try to con you into paying for a more expensive internet package.
Alison: unohana restusonnie_skies on November 18th, 2011 05:26 am (UTC)
I had no idea Service Electric did this. Do they creep on your internet usage and spy on you?
Skyla Doragono: ... *BOOM*skyla_doragono on November 18th, 2011 01:43 pm (UTC)
Yeah; my mother got served a C&D because I was downloading Bleach, and she's kicked me off her internet forever because she didn't realize that it was really because of the bandwidth. They cited "Tokyo TV" as the complaining company, not clarifying if they meant "Tokyo TV Productions" (which would have been right) or "Tokyo TV" the television station (which would have been bogus).

Several others I know have also had this issue, and where the company just gave the blatantly wrong complaining company. When called out on their BS, they either ignore it and let the C&D warning stand, or they kick you off their service. Depends on which Service Electric station you're getting service out of.
Alison: nel tusonnie_skies on November 18th, 2011 04:13 pm (UTC)
Do they only do this if you use a ton of bandwidth? Sometimes I use a lot, sometimes not so much. I'm pretty sure there are people out there that use a LOT more than I do, but I'm likely using more than a typical household...
Asch the Bloodynot_the_dreck on November 18th, 2011 04:23 pm (UTC)
Forgive the RP account.
Again, it depends. Here in NJ, I torrented Bleach once back in April, and they sent a C&D letter in August citing TV Tokyo as the complaining company like I mentioned above.

My ex in PA torrented everything under the sun. They also sent him a C&D letter in August citing incorrect complaining companies, from using the name of television stations to completely bogus companies. They cut off his internet soon after.
Alison: unohana restusonnie_skies on November 18th, 2011 04:32 pm (UTC)
Re: Forgive the RP account.
Hmm. I just hope I didn't piss them off too much when I wrote "no other available option" in the "why did you choose Service Electric?" comment box.

I stream a lot of stuff...I guess they'd consider that the same?
fonicarrancar on November 18th, 2011 04:35 pm (UTC)
Most companies do. Torrenting and streaming are the two major bandwidth hogs, and cable companies will try to limit or kick you off their service if you do too much. DSL services don't seem to give too much of a crap, same with some of the smaller localized cable services.

This is why I think a lot of people are shifting over to direct download to get stuff anymore.
astridstarr00astridstarr00 on November 15th, 2011 03:06 am (UTC)
This is interesting. I also have comcast, but I had no idea that they tracked this stuff. I have heard that if you use torrents they may slow down your speed & also the companies who own the rights can get your ip & have your isp send a c&d.

But as others have been asking, you sure its crunchyroll? Maybe someone in your home is actually dowloading stuff? I've just never heard of anyone getting a c&d for streaming something. Did they give you a list of what you infringed upon, or did they list Bleach specifically?

And if it is b/c you may be using too much bandwidth, wouldn't they just send out a letter saying chill on the bandwidth? I guess I just don't see why they would send out a c&d instead.

The thing about switching isp's, is that unfortunately it's not all that easy. In my area that's the only provider I have available. And I believe that's the case for most people, so going w/ another isp isn't an option :(
scarletwitch71 on November 15th, 2011 05:39 am (UTC)
Thanks for all the comments and I will be looking into usage around the house this weekend. This may be what finally propels me towards Clear though!