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15 June 2011 @ 11:09 pm
Bleach chapter 452  
... is out.

NO TWEETING KUBO UNTIL MONDAY, OR YOU WILL BE WEARING ICHIGO'S NEW "ARMOR" FOR A MONTH!!!! IN PUBLIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Will edit for thoughts later.

OK, Ginjou pwns Big Brother like WHOA. "You always wear this 15 pattern shirts." O_o WAY TO DIVIDE BY ZERO, KUBO, HAS GINJOU SEEN ICHIGO IN THE CHAPTER COVERS, TOO?????????????? Seriously, though, it sounds as if Kubo wants us to focus on this... or, he is just playing around with his own symbolism and art. Which I find endearing. :P

... Is Riruka Orihime's new maid? Is Orihime's main role in this arc to eat? WHY IS EVERYONE EATING UNHEALTHY FOOD????? Man, Kubo, little kids are reading your manga. Think of the children, Kubo!! XD

Kubo has sure taken liberties about how the title "Bleach" is going to be shown. Ketchup and mustard, yessir!

Ichigo is all sweaty... Ginjou is almost topless... (Ichigo, why aren't YOU topless as well, since you're sweating so much?)

...Yeah, I'll stop there.

Man, this chapter is full of Ichigo's eyeballs. Wasn't there an essay in Bleachness about eyeballs? Add the info! (Kidding!)

FINALLY, some explanation about how Ichigo will get his shinigami powers back through FB-ing. Hallelujah. Aaaand what is this? Is Ichigo achieving what Aizen wanted to achieve? This opens the floodgates. Is this why FB is bad for SS? IS FB bad for SS in the first place? Had SS known that there's a way for HUMANS to be as strong as the shinigami and even stronger, wouldn't they do something about it? Like what? I have no clue. Talk amongst yourselves.

This "armor" is stupid. Sorry, this is how I feel. Quit watching Sentai and Superhero shows, Kubo. I want my kimonos back! T_T

This sword is so underwhelming... or, I'm just a spoiled Zangetsu/Buster Sword/Dragon Slayer fangirl. Whatever.

Gone is the skull, too. For a weird reason, this makes me sad. It's like anything familiar with what we knew before about Ichigo is fading away for the FB to come in. :'( And whaddya know, he has an "X" in the hilt, while the group is called "X-cusion" (sp?) i c wat u did thar, Kubo.

"I mistook you for someone else". New clue? I honestly feel bad for any existing character that had to look THAT ridiculous. -_- No, I'm not changing my mind about the armor.

A new name for Ichigo's FB? Why am I thinking that this time, it'll have nothing to do with "moon"? Something with "X" comes to mind.

Determined!Ichigo is always good to look at.

Nifty power, that Video game! I want such a power, too! Can you imagine how helpful it'll be for preparing for classes?? O_O

TSUKISHIMA A COUSIN????? Has Yuzu been stabbed too to say this, or is it true? She talks about Ichigo's family... cue ichigo's birth, as Kubo said?????????????? YES, PLEASE. And OMG, someone needs to give Tsukishima a white cat to stroke and a glass of wine! NOW. Suave villain we have here. He appears where all the suave villains appear: the couch.

Ichigo... I want you to shut up, sit down and LISTEN for the next chapter, mkay? I want answers, and Tsukishima being there means that he'll give at least some clues. You've been acting without thinking enough, now SIT DOWN AND LISTEN.

Generally, good chapter. I liked the Ginjou/Ichigo interaction and the Tsukishima twist. The rest... whatev.
 
 
 
shuryoushuryou on June 15th, 2011 08:20 pm (UTC)
I'm going to be completely honest in that I like Ichigo's new costume.

AND HOLY SHIT TSUKISHIMA. I was seriously creeped out.
Aquat1c F1sh: Bleach - Soldieraquat1cf1sh on June 15th, 2011 08:40 pm (UTC)
Ichigo's new armor reminds me of the Green Lantern. D:

Also they're related? That's pretty twisted.
(Anonymous) on June 15th, 2011 08:42 pm (UTC)
Haters gonna hate (it's Bleach fandom, what else is new?), but I LOVE Ichigo's look. I hope he stays with it for a good while, especially after working so hard to get it. If/when there is one, I'll totally get the action figure :3 The color page should've been for this week, to show the new suit.

Cool as it is, though, I always imagined this being the kind of thing Chad would get (minus the sword). I bet if it was Chad, people wouldn't be shitting all over it.
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on June 15th, 2011 08:48 pm (UTC)

Probably not--Chad's never had a transformation before and we've been calling out for full body armor for years now. But after Mugetsu, anything Ichigo pulled out was bound to look lame.

2ch was laughing its ass off this morning but that was before they saw the sword move. I think it's probably laughing harder now.
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Avelera: Fight like a Girlathena799 on June 15th, 2011 08:43 pm (UTC)
It feels like every chapter is about to launch into plot movement. At this point I'm getting rather discouraged with all the teasers.

Yes, it was heart-stopping that Tsukishima is in Ichigo's home. But as far as I'm concerned, that mystery is over now. We know that Tsukishima has an ability to make people believe he is a friend somehow. The details of how are relatively unimportant (I'm really bored with Fullbring in general tbh). HOPEFULLY this will cause a fight of some sort that will draw Isshin and the Mystery!Shinigami into the fray. With the partial return of Ichigo's reiatsu sensor perhaps he will be able to see the shinigami in question?

As I see it the remaining questions are as follows: What happened to Kon (ie, is it a reiatsu-sensing problem)? What are Isshin/Urahara/Mystery!shinigami planning? What is Tsukishima up to/who is he? What are Xcution up to and who are they? Which side is the good guys really? (I was hoping Xcution would turn out to be bad and Tsukishima good in a rare twist, but so far it seems that Kubo is playing this (boringly) straight). What's going on in SS (and with the Vizards)? What's going on with Karin?

We know Ichigo is going to get his powers back, but will Fullbring powers prove a disadvantage of some sort or is it just another powerup?

This arc feels like the Bount filler one, with the disadvantage being that there's no regular story line to follow while waiting for the anime to catch up. Everything is being played so straight, its like the Vizards all over but without the Pendulum arc to spice it up. I want something unexpected to happen ala Aizen being the villain back in the SS arc. But so far except for a few "suspicious" moments everyone who appears to be bad is and everyone who appears to be good is. We never saw Aizen use his shikai, there's been no illusions, no tricks, no reason to believe things aren't exactly what they seem.

But what they seem is so BORING. Its just "Ichigo loses powers, a suspicious group who might or not be good (spoiler: they're good) arrive just as a mysterious foe who might or might not be bad (spoilers: he's bad) targets the nakama. Ichigo powers up and regains his powers. Arc ends with resuming of status quo ala SS characters returning, happy Rukia reunion, and addition of mysterious group as a part of the good guy fighting squad, to be ignored later when Kubo comes up with a new batch of satellite characters to move the plot. Oh, and the mysterious bad guy is defeated, after his power to make people believe they are his friends is undone."

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE KUBO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THE ABOVE. A trick, a double-cross, ANYTHING. I'm just PRAYING that Rukia is going to hit Ichigo and the rest of the nakama over the head and tell them that everyone with Fullbring is bad bad bad, that Fullbring powers are dangerous and outlawed for a reason, or even that somewhere Aizen's shikai was used and some aspect of the current timeline is a trick (spoilers: its not. there's been too many other POVs to justify everyone having been tricked into moving on with their lives).

Its like everything interesting that was set up in the Hueco Mundo arc has been sacrificed in favor of a rehashing of a boiled-down Vizard arc. I'm praying for a twist (and still kind of hoping against hope that Tsukishima is Inoue Sora) or that SOMEONE who appears to be a good guy will turn out not to be (or vice versa). But hope is fading fast. I'm really just waiting now to the reappearance of SS cuz at least then it will be interesting characters again even if the plot is dragging.

(And yes, I know I'm just saying the same thing that a lot of critics of the arc have been saying but for some reason this chapter was the tipping point for me.)
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on June 15th, 2011 08:56 pm (UTC)

I'd probably be along with you except that last week's chapter moved and before that there was a slow blah one preceded by two lively ones. Kubo's all over the place. His timing is really off. His comedic timing, his teasing is excruciating, and he repeats information like a Mexican soap opera--the same old clues, the same old sweet nothings that are not courting the readers anymore.

So yeah, this is from me, and I'm usually the biggest Kubofag on the block. Despite its problems with pointless battles and glacial pace, the Arrancar arc didn't seem as jerky.

*shrugs* I keep waiting for the story to find itself but Kubo DOES really like to drag out the teases. He doesn't answer questions as fast he keeps throwing out more and more little clues.

Next week will Tsukishima answer some things? Will he just confuse the plot further? I've heard so many out-there fanboi theories that it's not even a matter of "oooh yay, this is exciting because anything can happen," it's more like there's nothing to hold onto so everyone's writing his or her own script now.
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_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on June 15th, 2011 08:44 pm (UTC)

Thank you again Darkslover for posting the chapter. I was trying to nap but I guess my internal Bleach perception told me the scans were out. The Chinese scans didn't impress me at ALL but the chapter was better when I read it translated. Holy Granpa Rin, the whole Tsukishima ending was enough to get me excited.

Even the Ginjou stuff wasn't as bad padding as I thought it'd be--the expository stuff about how FB is supposed to bring back Ichigo's Shinigami powers is sorta meh but there among the subtext of Ichigo trusting Ginjou thoroughly (yes we saw that last week, yaaaawn) was that weird line "You remind me of someone else?" Was that supposed to be literal? As in Ichigo's FB looks like someone's? Or as in Ichigo looks like a whole new man?

This morning when spoilers came out on 2ch heard every possible joke there is to be made about Ichigo's FB outfit so I'm going to pass on making my own observations. Let's just say that I think Orihime's jammies are cute but I think Ichigo's is lame.

I didn't really appreciate the joke with Orihime eating a hot dog but I understand that the sort of thing is standard shounen fare--I just thought Kubo was a little more reverent towards Hime than that... then again, he did put her in bondage get-up for a brief panel that time he had Grimmjow lead her around in chains. My Inner Cranky Feminist will live...

I do not understand the Orihime and Riruka relationship and am still not amused by talk about donuts when I'm waiting for something more important to happen, like, say, plot. But this is how Kubo slows things down--why? I'll never understand. Doorknobs and donuts, panels of knuckles and clouds.... this is Kubo. In some chapters the excess panels are more irritating than in others.

So now we know why Yukio sped up the game--these FBs are scary. They have some serious time-space manipulation powers. This sort of thing is HUGELY harder to fight than a lot of the stuff we saw last arc. I'm beginning to believe they may have to lose their powers in this arc after all.

Ichigo forgetting he hadn't called home was cute.

Then the scene with Yuzu was chilling. Tsukishima is such a hottie but damn it Kubo do you REALLY HAVE TO TAKE UP A WHOLE PAGE EVERY TIME BOOKMAN MAKES AN APPEARANCE? He's done that how many times now?

I need a Tsukishima avie. I also need Tsukishima to talk, please, for the love of G-D, to explain something next week and I'm banking on the shounen idea that heroes don't have battles one after the other and that we don't get a living room brawl.
тне ℓіттℓе моиѕтеяѕ。: YOUTH ☇ not as a soldier but a mansappy_vcv on June 15th, 2011 09:07 pm (UTC)
I didn't really appreciate the joke with Orihime eating a hot dog but I understand that the sort of thing is standard shounen fare--I just thought Kubo was a little more reverent towards Hime than that... then again, he did put her in bondage get-up for a brief panel that time he had Grimmjow lead her around in chains. My Inner Cranky Feminist will live...

Don't get too upset too quickly about the hotdog reference, Debbie. I don't think it's as perverse as you might think. Remember, they're inside a video game; the pajamas are (in my opinion) an obvious Mario reference without directly copy and pasting the more iconic look. The hotdog, is (again, in my opinion) an indirect reference to Sonic the Hedgehog, who has both in America and Japan, been known to enjoy chili dogs. While it is more of an American canon, it has made its way into the Japanese and even game canon for Sonic (see, Sonic X, and Sonic Next Gen games). It was seriously the first thing I thought of, and I couldn't fathom Kubo not having a little fun with the setting. All the 8-bit furniture makes me squee with delight.
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The armor...Kubo has been watching too much Tron or something.
njxaxsonnjxaxson on June 15th, 2011 08:55 pm (UTC)
I know! Like, Tron and Power Rangers all mixed together.
Astraea: chibi byakuyalady_leia_solo on June 15th, 2011 08:47 pm (UTC)
Well fuck. I was all excited because I thought the person in the room was Rukia, but I guess not.

Hime continues to assault me with her adorable self.
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和山一朗: derpface!Ichigoburn1ngcha0s on June 15th, 2011 08:54 pm (UTC)
I actually don't hate the new outfit so much anymore after it's now complete; don't love it either but it's okay, I suppose. Looks like an armor, yeah, but it could have been worse... I just want the Oldman Zangetsu back asap though!
Lol Tsukishima, you creeper xD
njxaxsonnjxaxson on June 15th, 2011 08:56 pm (UTC)
Interesting tidbit: First indication of any Kurosaki grandparent in Bleach.
nehalenia: ichigo tentaclesnehalenia on June 15th, 2011 10:08 pm (UTC)
I wonder if it's an actual grandparent or if Tsuki just convinced Yuzu there was one. Like "I'm your cousin Tsukishima. Remember, we met at Grandpa Rin's funeral?"

"Grandpa Rin?... Oh of course, Cousin Shuu!"

Yuzu always seems so lonely that Tsuki probably didn't even have to use much power to convince her.
dvaB..aka..Yumicode_mari on June 15th, 2011 08:59 pm (UTC)
The heck! Tsukishima must really have some memory altering technique. Well, on the other thought there are already two people who recognized Tsuki and Ichigo is always bad with remembering people. So I still think that Ichigo's mom is somehow involved in this.

Eh-heh, are those toadstools on Hime's PJ's? :sorry:
D: Shiraiyah_bish_yah on June 15th, 2011 09:00 pm (UTC)
Well, at least he has a sword.
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Misha: [Bleach] Rukia = *fumes*angelmisha on June 15th, 2011 09:31 pm (UTC)
Fuck I miss Rukia. Can we just PLEASE go to the exciting bits, i.e. Isshin arc?

This. And so much of it.
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qwirky on June 15th, 2011 09:02 pm (UTC)
Seriously, though, it sounds as if Kubo wants us to focus on this... or, he is just playing around with his own symbolism and art.
It's just supposed to be cute comic relief, mixed in with Ginjou's creepy stalker ways. It's nothing big IMO, it's just a part of the pun that's been around since the start (e.g., his bedroom door hanger).

Ichigo's derpy faces were cute.

Is Ichigo achieving what Aizen wanted to achieve?
I think Ichigo already achieved something greater than what Aizen wanted with Mugetsu. This Fullbring/shinigami thing is something new. I still believe that Ginjou's developing Ichigo into some new, stronger being so that Ginjou can eat him, take his powers, or use him in some way. Perhaps that's what Tsukishima wants to stop or what he wants for himself.

Had SS known that there's a way for HUMANS to be as strong as the shinigami and even stronger, wouldn't they do something about it?
Well, there were Quincies, and SS exterminated almost all of them, though that was because they were tipping the balance by destroying hollows instead of cleansing them. SS also let Chad and Orihime off the hook. But the thing with Ichigo is that he's a shinigami/human offspring with shinigami powers that will, apparently, fuse with his Fullbringer powers.

This "armor" is stupid.
Ditto. Ichigo looks ready for a Tron rave. (And that's the mildest insult I can come up with; there have been other... uh, sexually explicit descriptions that friends have stated.)

TSUKISHIMA A COUSIN????? Has Yuzu been stabbed too to say this, or is it true? She talks about Ichigo's family... cue ichigo's birth, as Kubo said??????????????
I don't think Yuzu's saying the truth at all. Tsukishima's powers of altering perception and thought have been obvious for a while, first with Orihime and then with Chad. Tsukishima obviously messed with Yuzu, which is uber, uber creepy.

"Hello, little girl. Is your brother home?"
"Onii-chan? No..."
"Can I come in to wait for him?"
"Sorry, you're a stranger."
"Okay, let me feel you up then."
"Kyaaaa, raaaape- Oh, it's Cousin Shuu-chan!"
Yeah. Creepy.

Anyway, the series has never indicated anything about Ichigo having living grandparents (or recently deceased, I suppose) or cousins from Masaki's side (I mean, obviously Masaki had to come from somewhere, but there's never been an indication that her parents were involved in the Kurosakis' lives at all), and nothing would explain Ichigo "forgetting" the existence of a cousin. I think it's pretty obvious Tsukishima cut Yuzu-chan :\

Ichigo... I want you to shut up, sit down and LISTEN for the next chapter, mkay? I want answers, and Tsukishima being there means that he'll give at least some clues. You've been acting without thinking enough, now SIT DOWN AND LISTEN.
I disagree. Some guy who tried to kill you and hurt your friends, has now entered your house, screwed with your sister's mind, and is acting like he is your long-lost relative? You don't just sit down and listen. Ichigo needs to be on guard, and he is rightfully freaked out. :3 I am against Ichigo going RAWR FIIIIGHT as much as the next person, but Beautiful Creeper Tsukishima's not someone to just sit and listen to IMO.

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tsubaki99: Twilight Sparkle hmphtsubaki99 on June 15th, 2011 09:28 pm (UTC)
Ichigo seriously needs a Kamen Rider helmet NOW.

Maybe that's the reason I haven't approved this suit
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If he gets the Kamen Rider helmet, could I please request the addition of a narrator who announces his moves, a la Kamen Rider? Because that would just add icing to the cake for me. XD
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descrimedescrime on June 15th, 2011 09:29 pm (UTC)
God, what an awful outfit. It's like a cross between cartoon knight armor and a power ranger suit. The shinigami outfit was elegant in its simplicity, yet still striking. This looks like something made to be mass-produced on an action figure.

I'm glad it looks like the plot is finally moving forward next chapter, and I like the ambiguity of if Tsukishima really is or is not a cousin. Ichigo is terrible at remembering people, so even if he doesn't recognize Tsukishima, the answer might not be clear for a while.