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01 June 2011 @ 06:35 pm
Bleach Chapter 450 is out!  
Please remember that you should not tweet KT about this, as the chapter isn't officially out in Japan yet!

Edit: The translation here is better: http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/95863947/1

It's nice to learn a bit more about how Orihime's financial situation is handled, and her interaction with Riruka is really cute and funny. It seems though that the FB really are up to no good, given what a face Riruka makes when Orihime thanks her in the end.
Is that guilt?

And then, of course, the bad intentions seem to be confirmed to a degree, with Ginjou hiding something and blinding Ichigo. Though Ginjou claims it's training.

Predictions... ?

Well, I think Riruka will turn on the FB somehow and help Ichigo and/or Orihime. Maybe also Chad. But so far the emphasis seems to be on her bonding with 'Hime.

Issues: Orihime-Heartslovely_masoka on June 1st, 2011 04:36 pm (UTC)
My love for Orihime just intensified tenfold.

why is she so cute.
hinodeh: Your suffering amuses mehinodeh on June 1st, 2011 04:46 pm (UTC)
I forsee many new Orihime icons from this chapter. XD
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(Anonymous) on June 1st, 2011 04:51 pm (UTC)
There's been a surprising amount of focus on Orihime lately. I wonder if there's a reason why (other than the character development thing.)

I'm starting to feel like Rukia is never going to come back. Throw us a freaking bone, Kubo. PLEASE? Fixed-heroine, my ass. /bitter
hinodeh: sexy and smug rukiahinodeh on June 1st, 2011 04:54 pm (UTC)
Well, Orihime is there, and a healer, while Rukia is still gone. Unless she is the mystery shinigami.

Don't worry, I have no doubt about Rukia being back eventually.
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jenny_jadejenny_jade on June 1st, 2011 04:54 pm (UTC)
Orihime in this chapter is cute. Puppy eyes over donuts FTW XD

While I did think the chapter wasted many panel over donuts instead of plot, we get her insight about her tragic past with her family and also Rurika's uncomfortable feeling when Orihime acted nice and trusted Rurika to tell her story. I thought it was her Tsundere trait, but Rurika's reaction was too melancholy.

Is it just me but it seems that Yukio doesn't want to let Orihime out of the game (for some reasons)?
hinodeh: gazille has his thinking cap onhinodeh on June 1st, 2011 05:00 pm (UTC)
And it seems KT remembers her love of donuts which she mentioned way back in chapter 237. Nice touch there. XD

Ah, I've been waiting for someone to criticize the pacing! I didn't want to do it because I found the page cute and funny, but yeah, as usual: DRAW SMALLER PANELS KUBO!

It seems pretty confirmed now that the FB plan something sinister while Riruka knows and feels guilty because she likes Ichigo and Orihime.

Yukio's dialog was kinda weird. Maybe someone will post a better translation later.
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marvellous monsterfikuz on June 1st, 2011 05:08 pm (UTC)
*sigh* And here I thought Bleach was getting back into stride. Twenty pages wasted.
hinodeh: Your suffering amuses mehinodeh on June 1st, 2011 05:16 pm (UTC)
KT really loves to drag it out, doesn't he? By this point I think it's his personal taste and not editors telling him to stretch the series.
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jpblackjpblack on June 1st, 2011 05:22 pm (UTC)
This was a good chapter. "Pacing" my dick; Orihime's not a sad sack of sad.
pcuppy: Annoyedpcuppy on June 1st, 2011 05:38 pm (UTC)
This chapter was crap.
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on June 1st, 2011 05:39 pm (UTC)

Well damn. I love Orihime and cute is cute but this chapter didn't get anywhere for all the shit about donuts. I knew Riruka and Orihime would get to be friends and the tsun tsun tsun dere dere dere Riruka has always interested me, but I can't tell wtf Kubo is doing here. It's not suspense anymore--it's like when he had the pages about Mr.Yukata Teddy and all this humor that really wasn't funny enough to merit being there...

The blinding here was shocking. I thought from the spoiler pages that we had Hollow!Ichigo back so I was disappointed bc I though old black eyes was back... Ichigo finding his reiatsu? That'll be the day. I guess next week will be when all the shit hits the fan. The pacing is excrutiating.
hinodeh: barragan laughs twicehinodeh on June 1st, 2011 05:45 pm (UTC)
I know it's really bad the moment even you complain. But yeah, agreed on the pacing, despite my enjoyment.
pony_rocks: pic#84544780pony_rocks on June 1st, 2011 05:45 pm (UTC)
I guess I couldn't care less for this chapter.

The only remotely interesting feature was the fight itself.
I'm not at all into Orihime (or cuteness), so not only I found her part boring, but also embarassing and not very well drawn.
SummelBaerlisummelbaerli on June 3rd, 2011 12:59 am (UTC)
I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt this way about the cute Orihime scenes.
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on June 1st, 2011 05:49 pm (UTC)

The weird cleaning and incomplete translations here are making me wait for MANGASTREAM now. Ah, irony.
tick-tocking: BLEACH☂ cut off yer dickscuttling on June 1st, 2011 05:52 pm (UTC)
Cute, but a lot of wasted space. Orihime's insight into her background didn't tell us anything we didn't already know, for the most part. Rather than wasting space (which, yeah, the donut squeeing was, especially when tsukishima is somewhere, when urahara-isshin-mysterigami are doing something ominous, when ishida's got a cold shadow he's acting on... but I'm so ready for the icons that're gonna be made??? the lousy t-shirt), I gotta think Riruka's being set up to do something biiiiig. Like, obviously the FB are "bad" (nice to see Ichigo not trusting the dude completely), and Riruka's having misgivings because she's bonding with Ichigo and Orihime.

I'm interested in some of these dudes, but for the sake of the already character heavy story (with vizards and humans and Shinigami and the possibly still living Arrancar), I want 'em gone at the end of this arc, which (mostly) only works if they're bad. They don't really feel like long-lasting villains, s'all. Anyway, maybe Riruka sacrifices herself or something. Gotta make us care about her, thus all this? OR MAYBE NOT blah blah speculation.

A disappointing 450, idk. Sooo, wait, Ichigo is more motivated when there's someone he has to protect (regardless of whom it specifically is, mmk), but even that's not enough, so Ginjou had to blind him? O... K...

 Lady Camille Catherine Cecily Lloyd-George X: Ginskilly_n_duff on June 1st, 2011 05:56 pm (UTC)
I MISS HIS FACE. Even that shaded flashback panel was a stab to my heart.
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 Lady Camille Catherine Cecily Lloyd-George X: Ichigoskilly_n_duff on June 1st, 2011 05:55 pm (UTC)
Since they're typically 9-10 chapters in a tankoban, this would be either the last or penultimate chapter of book 51. Ichigo getting blinded seems like the perfect cliffhanger to put at the end.

Seems like Kubo spaced out this chapter with the doughnut scene to make book 52 (probably chapters 451-459,460) the one where the midden hits the fan! Or maybe he gave us such a cutsey, girly scene to make the blinding scene more graphic. (Seriously--ICHIGO JUST GOT LASIK BY SWORD)

I think Rukia will show in a chapter placed near the end of a tankoban, 9-10 weeks from now. Have to admit, would love nothing better than a chapter titled "Back from Blind 2".
qwirky on June 1st, 2011 06:12 pm (UTC)
I'm sure this chapter was cute to Orihime fans, but I'm really, really tired of all these pointless panels and pages that are simply wasted on her. These pages aren't showing her developing, growing, or maturing, which WOULD be actually worthwhile. Some chapters ago, there were pages dedicated to Orihime's OVERWHELMING BEAUTY. Now there are pages dedicated to her CHILDISHLY DROOLING OVER DONUTS. Just... what.

Instead of concentrating on the plot and moving it forward, Kubo takes silly and inane detours. And I can only think it's because Kubo really, really wants all the Orihime haters to love Orihime. He doesn't seem to get that pages like these don't help. Orihime's underlying problems still seem to exist (I guess) - until Kubo shows Orihime actually facing her problems, the people who dislike her won't suddenly start liking her just because Kubo thinks she's cute, beautiful, and sweet and feels the need to repeatedly slam everyone over the head with his love.

Kubo made Orihime who she is; he needs to man up and deal with the consequences of her actions in the series, i.e., deal with the fact that a lot of people don't like her or hate her. Kubo, either make Orihime finally grow up or stop wasting time on her that you could be using to develop other characters or the plot.

This chapter was a complete waste. The only interesting part was Ginjou saying Ichigo just protecting a person wasn't enough and then deciding to blind Ichigo for whatever reason. I have no idea what Ginjou thinks will sufficiently motivate Ichigo, but it's pretty drastic for just a training exercise. Also, Ichigo not being able to read Ginjou's heart pretty much suggests Ginjou has ulterior motives (cue non-surprised expression here).

Edited at 2011-06-01 06:17 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous) on June 1st, 2011 06:28 pm (UTC)
i fed up with orihime useless panels it's not funny or cute kubo!!!!!
orihime and doorknobs i had enough of them already.
i rather see kanoji for a change and i hate kanoji ,kubo give us somthing new ,could have shown us ishida at least :(

meh chapter!!!
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andrew_jpandrew_jp on June 1st, 2011 06:32 pm (UTC)
Fucking ouch.
◦ a girl like me ◦: Bleach - Riruka: Blank by exheroafteriwake on June 1st, 2011 06:36 pm (UTC)
I think Riruka's guilt may come from the fact that she's a spoiled brat and is faced with someone worse off who isn't that she treated badly, not because she's evil. So if FB is bad I really do hope she does turns on them (and I'm not just saying that because she's my new favorite character). But Ginjou remains sketchy. I'm not really fond of his training methods. The bit about Tsukishima having killing intent is interesting, since either Ginjou doesn't have it or is masking it, so we'll just have to wait and see.
darkmaiden94darkmaiden94 on June 1st, 2011 06:38 pm (UTC)
Ah. I was wondering when Spacecat posted those spoiler pages (Thanks so much to him <3) why the chapter seemed a bit short. Then I read it, and the rest of them turn out to be...Orihime fangirling doughnuts and talking about things we pretty much already knew.

Okay. Cute. But pointless. When Kubo said he had worked out his pacing, I thought he'd realize that meant smaller panels that focused more on plot development. Then again, if I recall correctly, he also warned that there are some parts that still drag. Guess this chapter was one of those parts.

Maybe I ought to try being more optimistic. I suppose those RiruOri bonding pages could be there to show us that Riruka is feeling guilty about being invovled with the seemingly bad things the fullbringers are planning to do to Ichigo and the others, and just might betray them to help them, namely Ichigo and Orihime, out. From that viewpoint, the scenes between Riruka and Orihime bonding would make some sense. That is, if Kubo really is planning to do that.

Guess we'll have to wait and see.
_debbiechan_: alejandro_debbiechan_ on June 1st, 2011 06:56 pm (UTC)

Maybe. And I hope the emphasis on Orihime's family may end up somewhere but still, this could've all been done with more economy.
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