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12 January 2011 @ 03:03 am
433 spoilers  
http://bleachasylum.com/threads/17612-Bleach-433-Spoilers-and-Discussion

NO TWEETING THE MAN (KUBO) ABOUT THIS FOR AT LEAST A WEEK, OK?

Spoilers will be in the comments.
 
 
 
oh gallant piglet,: chadaizome on January 12th, 2011 09:07 am (UTC)
IDK y'all. Chad being in the spoils makes me content. But this shiz about hollow holes is interesting too.

Hmm.
Issues: Ulquiorra-..Are Redlovely_masoka on January 12th, 2011 09:34 am (UTC)
Hollows are mentioned, I am interested. Though I'm not sure, their parents were attacked by hollows and somehow got their trace left on them that their unborn children were affected? I hope that's explained more because I don't really understand.

And Ramen guy wants to be human again, which is interesting. SO I'm betting these guy won't last past this arc then.

I'm more interested in this chapter then I thought I be at first tbh. Hollows always make things better. /bias/

But I always wondered something, if Ichigo gets his shinigami powers back what about his hollow powers? Do they come back as well? I mean...idk something I wondered about.

Also can't wait for the Chad/Ichigo conversation. Will be intense I hope. ♥

Edited at 2011-01-12 09:35 am (UTC)
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on January 12th, 2011 11:12 am (UTC)


their parents were attacked by hollows and somehow got their trace left on them that their unborn children were affected? I hope that's explained more because I don't really understand.

Ew, yuck, and unholy violent conception but it sounded like RAPE to me. Kubo is so pervy! Hollow-human hybrids--THIS I did NOT expect but it does seem to follow in the storyline theme of "we are more alike than different" and the overlapping of the different kinds of beings.
(no subject) - karenai on January 12th, 2011 11:27 am (UTC) (Expand)
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usagipyon on January 12th, 2011 10:21 am (UTC)
Attack do you mean....

HOLLOW RAPE!?!?!?!
pony_rocks: pic#84544780pony_rocks on January 12th, 2011 10:36 am (UTC)
It happends all the time.
(no subject) - biodamper on January 12th, 2011 02:41 pm (UTC) (Expand)
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on January 12th, 2011 11:14 am (UTC)

Okay, now that I'm a little over the idea of Hollow!rape, let me just say that I really like the pop op Ichigo color page and that I'm very much looking forward to Chad and Ichigo dialogue. The Chad/Ichigo relationship has really been underexploited in Bleach. I want FACIAL expressions. WHAT THE HECK IS CHAD DOING THERE. I wonder if Ichigo even asks? Ohana didn't say?!
Grenatescarboucle on January 12th, 2011 12:01 pm (UTC)
I don't even know how that popped up. The first thing I thought was simply that the mother was already pregnant and the hollow reiatsu infected the to be born baby XD

I love that Ichigo colour page. But damn, he looks soooooooo LONELY. Very melancholic.

And I'm glad Chad points out how much Ichigo NEEDS and WANTS to be a shinigami.
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The Main Gauche of Enlightenmentvelvetsword on January 12th, 2011 01:56 pm (UTC)
Shinji

Who?

/cough
(no subject) - fullkappaotaku on January 12th, 2011 03:47 pm (UTC) (Expand)
sugary_nitemare on January 12th, 2011 05:28 pm (UTC)
I shall make my hypothesis! I think Ichigo MIGHT still have his hollow powers, they're just blocked out and shoved into a closet. He has yet to awaken them! Well, that's what I think. I'm not thinking into this much... so... well, the 'Final Getsuga' has him lose his SHINIGAMI powers, but what of his hollow powers.

I don't know what's going on with the hollow rape, but that's just a crazy image. It makes 'sense' if you think about in a different way.

Hollow + attack [what kind of attacking? Rape?] + human female = Weird Hybrids? ( o.O)

(\__/)
(o'.'o) At least we get a color spread and some Chad! :3
Danielwdboldstar on January 12th, 2011 05:46 pm (UTC)
Very intriguing spoilers. I especially like Chad getting actual character development, and a long needed return to the Ichigo/Chad bromance.

Extra questions:

1) Why don't Karin and Yuzu count? Is it because their Shinigami powers are still latent/not as fully developed? Or maybe just because Ichigo is already trained and familiar and thus is less likely to freak out and refuse?
2) I am now intrigued by the "other Shinigami/Human hybrids" thing. I suppose it makes sense that some other Shinigami might have decided to sow their wild oats among the humans or even did what Isshin did. I wonder if we'll ever get to know who any of them were. It's probably not really important, but it would be sort of awesome if it turns out key historical figures were half-Shinigami or something
3) also, this totally means Ichigo/Rukia isn't even close to an unprecedent type of relationship. Totally. >:D
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heartless9heartless9 on January 12th, 2011 09:11 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I had to say this...
So, Ginjou says that their lost hearts are where the hole is right?
sooooooo....Grimmjow's heart was in his stomach....
fatty.
XD JKJK
But I do get that feeling that THE HEART IS LIKE YOUR POWER AND BLAH BLAH BLAH FRIENDSHIP AND THEN BLAH is coming up in the manga soon...so soon...
nehalenianehalenia on January 12th, 2011 06:59 pm (UTC)
Interesting. I had a feeling this would be another "talky" chapter. As for the Hollow!Rape theory... we'll have to wait for the actual chapter scans (and probably Ju-Ni) to see what Ginjou really said, but my impression wasn't that it was Hollow sexual assault but that the Hollow attack just affected the parents and thus their children. I saw it more like the idea (which is still around to some extent) that a pregnant woman being scared by something can influence the fetus physically. You know, like the belief that the Elephant Man's mother was scared by an elephant before she was pregnant?

In this case, though, it seems reasonable to assume that if a Hollow attacked (but didn't manage to kill) a human, then some of the Hollow reiatsu might be left on them, and it might transfer to a child -- sort of the same way that contaminants/pollutants getting into the parents can affect the children they have later.

Huh... so did Kubo just create his own brand of mutants?
(Anonymous) on January 12th, 2011 07:47 pm (UTC)
Great, now I can't help but imagine that Xcution got together and became nakama at a "School For Gifted Youngsters" founded by a bald guy in a wheelchair somewhere in the US.

And I bet one of them has a motorcycle and refers to everybody as “Bubb” (for anyone familiar with the series I’m alluding to)
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selenityshiroiselenityshiroi on January 12th, 2011 07:44 pm (UTC)
The new girl has a crush on Ichigo?

Oh god...time to leave Bleach fandom again.

New ship war in 5..4..3..2..1..

XDXDXD

Hollows infecting unborn children when they attack pregnant women is interesting. It opens up the possibility for a metric crapload of new characters though.

I'm not sure if I get the whole 'push our powers onto someone else' thing. Do they literally copy their own powers over? Or do they trigger powers in someone else? Because I want to see Ichigo get his own powers back, not get someone else's.
heartless9heartless9 on January 12th, 2011 09:06 pm (UTC)
O_o Hollow!rape?
Oh wow, if that'd happened then...well...I (along with Kubo sensei) have gone off the deep end...and I mean the deep end where there's a steep hill, then a vertical cliff heading toward the dark oblivion that is known as THE GUTTER.
I'm lookin' at ya, UlquiHime (Although Ulqui's dead... ;_;)