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10 January 2011 @ 08:28 am
Hellverse Final Numbers, Dumb Poll, etc  

First, the really important breaking Bleach news: I GOTS A BUNNY HOOD. It doesn't look exactly like Orihime's but it's cute. The one my daughter has is closer to Hime's but pink. These things are selling like hotcakes on Ebay.

Second, has 2011 been treating everyone nicely so far? I have a tangerine tree in my backyard and I've been envisioning it full of Bleach characters. Seems that Sensei's citrus stunt has become a fandom meme.

from pixiv:

from piccun² at Naruto Forums (that place is so wildly entertaining--I must say for all the times I see it quote my friends' translations here w/o credit, it makes me LOL with its manip threads):

Ah, these weeks without a chapter were a little scary--I ventured into some places I shouldn't have. I always thought that YouTube comments were the bottom of the barrel as far as dumbass and puerile goes but nope. Gah, this is what happens when my friends go on honeymoons and vacations--I seek out spooky forums. Then I remember I have my own damn community of friends and I can talk about whatever bleachness I want so, hey, dumb poll:

Poll #1666485 The Lost Agent Arc

How Long Will the Lost Agent Arc Last?

Until Bleach's 10th anniversary this coming summer thereabouts
Yahoo!Answers says 7 months.
If Kubo-sensei doesn't know, how the heck am I supposed to know?

Who do you expect to see again before this arc is over?

Rukia, du'uh
A Visored or two (whether on Earth or back in SS, who knows?)
Grimmjow, oh yeah, we got the hint.
Mayuri with a whole army of Arrancar

Seriously, what do expect to happen in this arc?

Sado gets to flex his muscles and develop his character
Ichigo regains his powers in a jiffy
Ichigo DOESN'T regain his powers in a jiffy
Ishida fights book-reading guy in payback match!
Orihime reveals location of hairpins--at the very least Kubo owes us that! C'mon, KUBO!
Fullbringers' identities not revealed (that's for the next arc)
Ichigo job comedy (housesitting rabbits, etc)
Some glorious Isshin
Mere mentions and teases of glorious Isshin
I have no clue

Finally, from nacchan here at IchiRuki FC at BA, the final numbers on Hellverse are in. According to zack_mori (twitter name for Bleach anime soundman) today is the last day for the movie to play in the theatres). Hellverse didn't make as much money in its closing sums as Memories of Nobody, Diamond Dust Rebellion, or Fade to Black.

The best movie of the bunch rakes in the least money? Annie remembers that I predicted that it wouldn't do as well as FTB because of repeat business. I'm sad for Kubo-sensei to be right. After reading summaries of Hellverse I do believe it to be a well-made movie with lots of devotion to the authenticity of the characters, great fights and a little something for everyone... I don't believe that the absence of the Shinigami OR the presence of Orihime were that much a deciding factor in the movie's relative failure compared to DDR and FTB. I do believe that the repeat success of DDR and FTB had to do with the fervor of their respective fandoms (Hitsugaya and IchiRuki).
(Anonymous) on January 10th, 2011 03:13 pm (UTC)
Ahhhh sadly I have no livejournal to answer the questions of the poll. But sure Rukia is the one I miss the most, so she is the one I want to see again the most. I want the return of Grimmjow and Ulquiorra too, but not as much as Rukia.

About HellVerse, well, it's really surprising. It's the movie for the birthday of Bleach and finally it does worse than Memory of Nobody at the box office ?! What ? While it's the second best opening, after, it does bad. I'm sad because the movie looks great. I don't understand, maybe like you say, the two big fanbases (Hitsugaya and Ichiruki) was not happy with this movie (even if, well, we have Ichiruki in this movie - even if less than in FTB. For Hitsugaya, it's true that apparently he is not really in it).

Well, I'm sad for Kubo (but not so sad because it's not a total desaster neither, just the worst of the 4 - and here I talk about the box office, not the quality). I'm sure Bleach will have a lot of success in the next 10 years, so I'm not worried.
balladbirdballadbird on January 10th, 2011 03:16 pm (UTC)
My prediction: Mayuri edo-tenseis the arrancar, then allies with Aizen to wage shinigami war 2... just because he's mayuri and it sounded like it would kill a few minutes.

As to the hellverse performance, eh, it ran in the black, so it wasn't a complete loss. All I really had any interest in was the first five minutes (if it even lasted that long) anyway, so were I a movie goer I'd probably have been a jerk and left after that (they still got my money though, so I'm only being a jerk to myself. XD)

All these oranges are making me long for a new season of Code Geass. >.
Issues: Orihime-Oh mylovely_masoka on January 10th, 2011 04:11 pm (UTC)
The bunny hood is so cute. <3

Ulquiorra pls that's all I want.

Orihime hairpin whereabouts pls. All I care about tbh.

Eh, not surprised about the movie tbh. Since my interest was the only first few minuets, but as long as Kubo liked what he produced he should be happy. XD

Edited at 2011-01-10 04:27 pm (UTC)
hinodehhinodeh on January 10th, 2011 04:35 pm (UTC)
I feel like this arc will be short, but KT's slow pacing should be never underestimated.
Rukia might return at the end of it, or at the start of the next arc. Though I'd be very happy to see her sooner.

I'll be surprised if the location of Orihime's hairpins and her current mentality towards battle won't be revealed in this arc ar some point.

As to the new movie doing comparatively poorly, I agree that it might due to being another rescue arc. Another possibilty is that maybe the audience wasn't interested in the plot. If you look at pixiv, though, it seems like the the movie only characters are quite a hit with the artitsts.
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on January 10th, 2011 04:48 pm (UTC)

If you look at pixiv, though, it seems like the the movie only characters are quite a hit with the artitsts.

Fanworks always are obsessed with new characters though. I'm not at ALL interested in the OCs, honest--the draw of this movie for me was the nakama (IshidaIshidaIshida) but I've already started a fic about Kokuto. OC's give you springboard material for your beloved characters to play off--hence all the Kokuto/Rukia and Kokuto/Ichi stuff, lol. But yeah, I guess some people like him because he's really .... er... attractive as a character. Some people found Senna an appealing character too but I found her infinitely boring.

I can't imagine an anime movie without an OC. Kokuto and Shuren were as good as they come, I suppose. I've seen worse. For me, the familiar characters carry the film. IR carried FTB, not the twins. Here, Ichigo didn't carry the movie and not much new was revealed about the nakama--we got good fights and same old same old but no new dramatic emotional stuff. The Orihime scene with Ichigo was reminiscent of her farewell scene in 237 but people don't flock to see movies for IchiOri. They go for IchiRuki.

The exit polls showed more women attended this movie and I think that's what's behind the lack of repeat business too. This movie got the fanbois in for the fights and that was that. People didn't come to see an IchiOri movie (the movie wasn't advertised as one) or come again to see the fights. Hitsugaya's movie got fangirls back in the theatres again. FTB was a "date" movie during the holiday season because of the emphasis on emotions and a relationship.
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xmurcielagox on January 10th, 2011 05:06 pm (UTC)
TBH......I really don't know what to think about Bleach anymore. This arc seems like it'll be a development arc for Chad and maybe Orihime *crosses finger's*

But is anyone else wondering where Kon is???? It's like he's been forgotten. :(
hinodehhinodeh on January 10th, 2011 05:09 pm (UTC)
Kon's absence is weird. Maybe Rukia took him with her to SS because KT made the decision to remove all supernatural things from Ichigo's life?
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The Main Gauche of Enlightenment: Scanty is displeased (with guns)velvetsword on January 10th, 2011 09:15 pm (UTC)
Here's the problem in a nutshell.

Do I want to see FIGHTAN ACTION? I just had 100+ chapters/episodes of that.
Do I want to see Orihime's fabulous one-sided KUROSAKI-KUN bonanza? I just had 100+ chapters/episodes of that.
Do I want to see attractive bad people getting their asses kicked? I just saw 100+ episodes of that.
Do I want to see nakama fightan and rescue arcs? I JUST SAW OVER 300 EPISODES/CHAPTERS OF THAT.

This movie is just another 60 minutes of the same shit I JUST SAW. Why would I go to watch a rehash of things I don't have to pay money to see and I already get in the course of the goddamn manga?

First movie? Novelty, new female character, the bloom wasn't quite off the 'rescue arc' rose yet.
Second movie? Scads and scads of Hitsugaya all over the screen, Ichigo + Rukia/Matsumoto + Hitsugaya asskicking team up. New. Interesting. Fans love it.
Third movie? RUKIAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH plus the added allure of bad!Rukia whipping hiney with a scythe sans panties. New. Interesting. Emotional. Fans love it.
Fourth movie? Whole lot of nothing we haven't already had for the past five fucking years.

Best Bleach movie? Not by a long shot.
(Anonymous) on January 10th, 2011 09:35 pm (UTC)
Wanna know what plot device that would make the best Bleach movie ever?
...Time travel baby.
With LOTS of HOT!YOUNG!Isshin + Ryuuken. Fans will love it.
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(Anonymous) on January 10th, 2011 09:28 pm (UTC)
I am suddenly thirsty for a glass of TropicAizen!
But I cant find the power to look away from my computer screen...wrry? o_o
the cosplayin' cat ladymochavalentino on January 10th, 2011 09:40 pm (UTC)
My suspicion is that we'll never see the vizards again :/ But if they ever showed back up in SS......I don't know what I'd do. That's total character demolishing. D:
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◦ a girl like me ◦: Bleach - Ichigo by homunkulasafteriwake on January 10th, 2011 11:02 pm (UTC)
::pout:: The answer in the poll about job comedy saddens me because the minute he went into that rundown building I gave up all hope of job comedy, and I really wanted to see that.
Super Nintendo Chalmers: Dance; Sode no Shirayukistrawberries_85 on January 10th, 2011 11:05 pm (UTC)
Sad about the movie when it looks like so much work was put into it and everything. Being as biased as I am, can I just blame the Hitsugaya fandom?

Cute hoodie! :D I remember years ago I wanted something like that, 'cept it cat ears instead of bunny ears. XD
(Anonymous) on January 13th, 2011 06:21 am (UTC)
actually , the revenue of this movie is on par with that of bleach movie 2 -DDR

Revenue of bleach movie 2 after 5 weeks -$6,772,370
Revenue of bleach movie 4 after 5 weeks -$6,488,991

so, i have no idea where you got that incorrect info
Nacchannacchan_touya on January 13th, 2011 08:50 am (UTC)
no ALL japanese sources have the same exact information of revenue in YEN which is the exact currency the movie gained since it only shows in Japanese cinemas

opening week : http://img522.imageshack.us/i/seesaopening.png/
16 days : http://img222.imageshack.us/i/seesa412.png/
23 days : http://img109.imageshack.us/i/seesa468.png/
30 days : http://img708.imageshack.us/i/seesa53.png/
37 days : http://img402.imageshack.us/i/seesa57.png/


the closing sum of Hellverse is 5.7 billion which is the worst out of 4 movies

so, i have no idea where you got that incorrect info