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27 October 2010 @ 03:28 pm
Kubo Tweets  

Sensei does tweet about things other than food and breasts--sometimes he tweets about Bleach. Just today (and I swear if I didn't know better I would guess that someone cued him in on the fact that a certain insistent part of American fandom was identifying Rukia as "a geisha" and Orihime as a "samurai's wife" in the new 2011 anime B calendar ) Sensei tweeted that he loved the calendar featuring "historical figures," that it was his favorite but being ignorant of history, he could tell who everyone but Rukia and Orihime were.


ただ、俺が歴史に疎いせいか、ルキアと織姫の元ネタだけが誰だか分かりません。 about 3 hours ago via Echofon

来年のアニメ版カレンダーが届いたんだけど、これ凄くいい!!今までで一番好きかも。歴史上の人物に扮したキャラが筆のような筆致で描かれてて、みんなすげーかっこ良い! about 3 hours ago via Echofon

Several fans (mostly Japanese) wrote back to identify Rukia as princess AtsuHime (not a fancy prostitute) amd Orihime as Murasaki Shikibu, author of The Tale of Genji THE WORLD'S FIRST NOVEL (not an anonymous Samurai's wife). Of course those fans identifying the girls as such also claim to be doing such things in order to annoy the IchiRuki fandom. Mature, ne?

Also, remember when Sensei tweeted that he was drawing panties for the first time in his life and he got us all curious as to WHOSE panties they could be? (He said he wanted to make them flesh-colored!   )

Alas, he wasn't talking about Bleach. Translation by mezzo_marinaio :

Sensei: @hekky3 確かに子供用の水着って困りますよね。やちるの水着姿描いた時も困りました。そういや俺こないだ生まれて初 めてパンチラ描きましたよ。BLEACHじゃないですが(笑)。

To hekky3: "I definitely have some trouble with child swimsuits. I had some trouble when I drew Yachiru's swimsuit as well. By the way, the other day I drew someone showing their underwear for the first time in my life. Ah, but I'm not talking about Bleach." (laugh)

(Mezz: Awwwww, looks like he wasn't drawing IchiRuki pantsu after all. XD

I wonder what he was talking about, then...?

Lol, maybe he really IS starting a Kubo underwear line! XDDD)
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ivixie: boooby bobbyivixie on October 27th, 2010 08:41 pm (UTC)
I'd buy those underwear and WEAR THEM xD
Phoenix Hawk's Deep Corefmphoenixhawk on October 27th, 2010 08:45 pm (UTC)
He's probably just playing with us. He's drawing Isshin in his underwear..... :p
Kim!: Mushroom Mushroomspartydragon on October 27th, 2010 09:46 pm (UTC)
I wouldn't mind that, actually...
The Main Gauche of Enlightenment: Alphonse Mucha #2 crownvelvetsword on October 27th, 2010 08:56 pm (UTC)

tsubaki99: Bossun smiletsubaki99 on October 27th, 2010 10:09 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - maewie on October 28th, 2010 11:29 am (UTC) (Expand)
Kylarakarenai on October 27th, 2010 09:25 pm (UTC)
I know that geisha don't wear it all the time, but just saying? If we were supposed to think Rukia was a geisha, SHE'D HAVE WHITE FACE PAINT. BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF DISTINCTIVE, YO.

And Orihime being Murasaki is freaking awesome, but then again, I love and respect authors of stories so maybe that's just me and my ilk.
Dunneh: dot...dot...dot...dunneh on October 28th, 2010 01:26 pm (UTC)
Actually, Geisha don't have white face paint, only Maiko do. The stereotypical image of a Geisha is actually of a Maiko. Most full fledged Geisha would only wear a little face paint if at all.

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pogopogo2468 on October 27th, 2010 09:36 pm (UTC)
It baffles me that some would rather have Orihime be the wife of a samurai instead of Murasaki Shikibu, who wrote the first novel! That's a huge honor!

And lollll at Rukia being a random geisha XXXD
kawaiisdreal1: Pridekawaiisdreal1 on October 27th, 2010 10:33 pm (UTC)
Ok *ahem* I'm no expert in Japanese historical figures so maybe someone can tell me what famous historical Geisha and Samurai's wife are they supposed to be representing?

........No? Well, ok then.

This calendar is really awesome and if I had money I would buy it. ;_;
Rukia looks gorgeous as a princess (she has longer hair there doesn't she? x3) and Orihime being Murasaki is such a tremendous honor and matches well because of her wild imagination. (not to mention she looks beautiful <33)

Other than pure bitterness and/or spite, I can't begin to comprehend why some people would insist that the girls are something else when they have been given proof after proof of who they are supposed to represent.

Oh fandom. *shakes head*
reynardine on October 27th, 2010 11:30 pm (UTC)
I can honestly see why the Japanese fans are seeing the Rukia pic as Atsuhime. NHK did a taiga drama (year-long historical drama) about Atsuhime in 2008 and take a look at one of the DVD covers for the series. Pretty close, ne?
The Main Gauche of Enlightenmentvelvetsword on October 28th, 2010 01:20 am (UTC)
Wow, down to the kimono pattern.
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(Anonymous) on October 28th, 2010 12:12 am (UTC)
Yeah, she's definitely not a prostitute. If she was, her obi would be tied in the front.
Dunneh: dot...dot...dot...dunneh on October 28th, 2010 01:29 pm (UTC)
Geisha's aren't prostitutes, but rather artisans, so their obi were tied in the back. But yeah if her obi were tied in the front she would have been a prostitute.
rukiichirukiichi on October 28th, 2010 01:23 am (UTC)
I didnt like the fact that she was calimed as a samurai's wife, when it is already cleared that she was given the title of the worlds greatest novelist, RESPECT ORIHIME people, only being a wife of someone doesnt give her much of a importance, but she sounds much dignified when she is the novelist, I am not saying this cause I am an Ichiruki fan, I am saying this to save Orihime's her own reputation, she deserves dignity, and her fans doesnt give her that...thats a shame *sigh*
(Anonymous) on October 28th, 2010 03:47 am (UTC)
"she deserves dignity, and her fans doesn't give her that"

THIS. I absolutely agree with your opinion. If her (true) fans really understand her character, they won't mind with everything she got lately. They would be proud their character was portrayed someone who called as the greatest (woman) novelist. But, instead, there are some people who always wants her as the mate of someone else (in this case, samurai's wife? LOL). Why she couldn't stand for her-own self?
Super Nintendo Chalmersstrawberries_85 on October 28th, 2010 01:31 am (UTC)
I'd buy Kubo's underwear line. In fact, he should have a whole fashion line. Pretty please Kubo?
Shi: eyepeachesdjna on October 28th, 2010 03:12 am (UTC)
I would so wear it. He has damn good style
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tamzin: ichiruki-pointsconquistadora on October 28th, 2010 04:08 am (UTC)
I can't help but laugh (pityingly) at people arguing over who Rukia and Orihime are cosplaying as. Really?

Moving on, Bleach or not, I want to see Sensei's custom nude panties. /ohthewording XD Maybe he was doing an illustration for something like a mag cover? Hopefully he'll tweet the pic XD
_debbiechan_: Chizuru_debbiechan_ on October 28th, 2010 04:13 am (UTC)

He was doing illustrations for reprints of famous young adult novels a while back so maybe?

Yes, I'm dying to see Kubo panties. XD
annie_08annie_08 on October 28th, 2010 06:17 am (UTC)
I love that Japanese fans are all agreeing Rukia is Atsu-Hime :D Unless you're telling me they are unreliable then it's pretty confirmed that Rukia represents a princess in that calendar. Sensei must be proud since he loves it, nya~

Well, since some insisted she's just a geisha may be they should tweet him their explanation though. After all, they sure know about Japanese history more than the natives, ne?
Grenat: Too sexyescarboucle on October 28th, 2010 11:59 am (UTC)
See, I think that the artist who drew the calendar relied on the AtsuHime drama so everyone could recognize her easily XDDD

I'm so glad that what we've been saying is true. It proves we should stick to Japaneses fans when we need to recognize the characters ichigo, Rukia and others are supposed to be.

This calendar is gorgeous. I hope I can find it once the manga calendar will be revealed. XD
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maewiemaewie on October 28th, 2010 12:44 pm (UTC)
How did they prove that Orihime was Murasaki Shikibu? Just curious. The certain fandom seem to be stuck in Orihime not having the right clothes for Murasaki's era:P
_debbiechan_: Orihime Avie by Jenni_debbiechan_ on October 28th, 2010 01:00 pm (UTC)

Fans on 2ch originally guess Murasaki Shibaku because of the flowers in Orihime's picture are Bletilla striata, or Chinese ground orchids, which are nicknamed "Murasaki Shikibu." They're usually purple, plus "murasaki" means "violet". The flowers look a lot like irises--they still could well be irises depicted in the calendar pic (that is much in dispute with fans who won't let go of a bone) but since Sensei confirmed that the characters in the calendar are historical figures, there hasn't been another historical figure identified for Orihime's picture yet.
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Dunneh: dot...dot...dot...dunneh on October 28th, 2010 02:11 pm (UTC)
I became interested in Geisha a while ago ago and I have read extensively about the history of Geisha.

She could possibly be intended as a Geisha. And there's nothing really wrong with that. Geisha are artisans; Geisha aren't 'a fancy prostitute' either-- high-class Geisha did not prostitute themselves--that's a (mostly) a western narrow minded and incorrect view I'm afraid. Some questionable practices occurred, but the actual relationship between Geisha and patron is much much more complicated than that.

I can see how anti-Rukia fans (even Japanese ones) might capitalize on the fact that Geisha were namely for entertaining men, but they did so through art, music and conversation and were very respected artisans of their crafts. Geisha literally means means arts person. Furthermore, they were deemed very intelligent--you would talk to Geisha about worldly matters that wives would not understand. So it's not really an insult. If anything, if Rukia is the Geisha and Orihime is the Samurai's wife, then Rukia is in a much better position. They were the only truly independent working women of the time, able to own their own businesses (tea houses) and even marry (but give up Geisha status). Where a wife would be subjected to walking behind her husband, Geisha did not.

Having said that, in my opinion the robes and head-pieces are too fancy for a Geisha. Only young apprentice Geisha (Maiko) did the full regalia-- Geisha were less fancy, using more subdued kimono, headpieces and no face paint or top knot. So, if she's a Maiko she would have had face paint, and she doesn't. So I think she's actually Atsuhime-- fancy regalia, without the face paint. Also, if they are historical figures, then it fits. It doesn't make sense to me otherwise.

Sorry for the long winded post. But it kinda bugs me when people paint Geisha with the same brush as prostitute without having an understanding about the 'flower and willow world' which really wasn't as simplistic as just 'they offered their virginity up and they entertained men for money and probably slept with them'. Sorry. =x
_debbiechan_: aim high_debbiechan_ on October 28th, 2010 02:45 pm (UTC)

Ah, sorry for the insult against geisha then. Historically I see nothing wrong with the role or anyone being portrayed as such but comments in fandom comparing Rukia to a prostitute or emphasizing her "receiving men" because of this calendar portrait did bother me.
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