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27 September 2010 @ 08:23 am
We have rebuttal to Karenai's essay!  
Warning for shipping.

We've waited over a year for someone, anyone, to answer karenai 's Lust Arc essay (linked on side of this community). The author has asked over and over for a response, and now it seems we do have a long and comprehensive rebuttal:

The rebuttal essay is Orihime Loves Ichigo. The title itself is deceptive since that statement itself is arguably canon fact (although Karenai's essay does, among other things, conclude that Orihime does not really love Ichigo--I have always disagreed with her about that one particular). This essay, posted on a site that doesn't allow for comments, addresses many points besides Orihime's love for Ichigo and does seem to beg for comments insofar as it seems to be riddled with errors. I'm asking everyone here who responds to it to read the whole thing before responding, to be on his or her best behavior before responding, to acknowledge the effort that went into compiling all the documentation in the essay and to refrain from mocking statements, but please, address the more outrageous claims. In particular I'm interested in the issue of Viz's translation being the one correct source, the characterizations of romance in shounen, Rukia's characterization ("Rukia is as naive as Hinamori when it comes to a pretty face"), the idea that Ichigo and Rukia being a couple would cause havoc among the nakama, and the bizarre conclusion that it wasn't Ulquiorra's breaking off IchiThing's horn but Orihime's calling out to IchiThing that caused Ichigo's transformation back to normal and caused him to not fire the cero at Ishida.

Anon comments disabled. Please, respond succinctly and politely.

eta: and in anticipation of the question why link this essay and not other IchiOri essays, the answer is that this is the only one I've seen that directly responded to an essay on this site.
r0ck3tsci3ntist - sorry, kidding: yoruichir0ck3tsci3ntist on September 27th, 2010 06:09 pm (UTC)
please delete this post XD
I refute the essay on the grounds that it's probably wank bait - like everything else to do with Bleach shipping these days (yes, even more than in the days of yore) and that there's got to be a circle jerk just waiting with baited breath over at FW.

Which is all to say that this should pretty funny like a Glenn Beck symposium.

/sarcasm (just saying, because, you know, it tends to fly over people's heads in some other places)

Polite enough?

I totally couldn't help myself
_debbiechan_: Chizuru_debbiechan_ on September 27th, 2010 06:16 pm (UTC)
Re: please delete this post XD
I may yet delete it. I doubt it will get reported if only because the main helpful elves who do the reporting don't like stuff that links their own to make F_W. But some of us do get our jollies on the Lust Arc still--and I do realize that we're as boring and funny as Glenn Beck sym posium to some XD. No one's been mean yet so... unless bricks fall after lunch I may community close the essay or something....

people are so tired of shipping but they're free to move along.

hmm, I did make it members only now on second thought--harder to F_W that way, and it is of interest to members of this comm, but I was sort of hoping the original author of the essay would see it and honorably respond. May change my mind later but I need to eat and do Hebrew with my bar mitzvah kid.

Edited at 2010-09-27 06:21 pm (UTC)
r0ck3tsci3ntist - sorry, kiddingr0ck3tsci3ntist on September 27th, 2010 06:44 pm (UTC)
Re: please delete this post XD
I did make it members only now on second thought

I think that's wise. It isn't really the sort of thing I would dignify with the term rebuttal. And I'm not being sarcastic either.

(I just sent my fourteen year old back to the drawing board for attempting to turn in a much more concisely written essay to his AP history class.)
_debbiechan_: All Turn Out OK_debbiechan_ on September 27th, 2010 06:52 pm (UTC)
Re: please delete this post XD
Like I just told someone else if someone is going to write pages and pages, I think I'm being polite to respond. I'm not baiting attacks but asking for discussion. Also, a rebuttal is a rebuttal is a rebuttal even if it's subpar. A chair with three uneven legs is still a chair.

And my bar mitzvah kid won't write his speech. Good luck with AP essay. Mine is correcting my own Hebrew now so I'm getting sassed in that area but I still pwn him in English.

eta--also, I'm not really concerned about F_W for my own sake at the time although I do know that some community members have some real concerns about it. FWIW, the last time a post here was on F_W, it got less hits than a bleachness post about Renji's absurd costume in the anime Arabian filler so either bleachness has more active members than F_W or we're just not that interesting to them. I guess its the latter.

Edited at 2010-09-27 09:04 pm (UTC)