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27 April 2010 @ 09:45 pm
Episode 268  
First, allow me to preface this brief post by apologizing in advance if it is inappropriate and merits being deleted.

That being said, I will now continue. :D

I recently watched episode 268 via bleachportal.net, and I have the following message to say to my fellow Bleach-following friends:

Once. Just ONCE. I would love for Inoue to unleash some serious wrath and reject her opponent's VERY existence. If we follow the theory of her abilities thus far, this is NOT a far leap or stretch of the imagination. AM I RIGHT?!?!

........... But then again, it is nice to be rescued by teh Sexeh Ishida. Yum. I'd play damsel in distress too. ;)

Let's get some comment-convos happening on Inoue's dormant aggressive capabilities and (of course!) Ishida's hotness, ya know, just for good measure. ;)

PS - Been following this community for forever and I confess to being an avid lurking fan! XD
balladbirdballadbird on April 28th, 2010 04:55 am (UTC)
I must respectfully disagree. If Orihime performed a wrath based action, she wouldn't really be Orihime anymore.

Aside from which, rejecting the very existance of someone, whether she could do it or not, is a pretty unspeakably cruel thing to be doing. XD

Don't get me wrong, Orihime could do for a bit more assertiveness, maybe even more aggression, but given the emotional fallout she would eventually go through if she cold-bloodedly killed someone, I'd say all this "reject out of existance" nonsense is best regulated to fanfiction.
Desiree: Sailor Moonlibragoddess04 on April 28th, 2010 05:02 am (UTC)
This is true... I guess it wouldn't be Inoue anymore, but I know SO many people are waiting for her to step it up and I think this would be the ultimate final stage of her power's evolution. Though I doubt it'll ever be taken there because I think we'd run out of a show.. she would "delete" any transgressors, haha. End.
aoi24: Ukelala animated glareaoi24 on April 28th, 2010 05:14 am (UTC)
I do understand the frustration.
You just want her to get up and 'do something' rather than continue in such a vein (DID-syndrome arguable)but like it's said then she wouldn't be Orihime anymore.

If her powers belonged to a different character then maybe we'd see them in an offensive role. Like say, Tatsuki we'd probably see a more ruthless demonstration of power.

But this is Orihime who revives the characters who brutalise her simply because she cannot take any sort of pleasure or vindication at the expense of others.

Actually, I cannot really see her doing that at all in the series. If Kubo does that it really would be his ultimate troll because it's not that she isn't strong, she's just not that sort of person.
tamzin: ichirukiconquistadora on April 28th, 2010 06:05 am (UTC)
Well, thus far... I hate what they are doing with this season/arc. So much fail. So so much.

As for Orihime, she doesn't need to Reject whole existences, she just needs to learn how fire that damn Tsubaki. That's what he's for! The offensive! GAH *flailinganddyingfromfrustration*
Desireelibragoddess04 on April 28th, 2010 06:14 am (UTC)
Tsubaki firing = Agreed. 100%.
cuddl on April 28th, 2010 07:37 am (UTC)
I like how her greatest asset is her humanity rather than her god-defying powers. As much as I might want to see it, rejecting someone out of existence seems a bit OOC for her. Her powers were born from a desire to preserve and protect life so it would make more sense (and fitting) to do the opposite--bringing back someone from nothing. And maybe her powers aren't really necessary to do that, just her heart :)

It's been a very long time since we've seen Tsubaki of course. I think there has to be level of anger there for her to be successful with him. A pissed off Orihime is scary XD

If Kenny and Byakuya lose, it really just leaves her since Ishida is injured and Mayuri is content with watching. Orihime seems to garner strength from within when she is alone and has no one to rely on but herself... (and after what's happened on the Dome she can no longer afford to rely on others so much, her friends need her as much as she needs them)

*crosses fingers that she'll be the one to take out Yammy*

If nothing else, I hope before the end of this arc she has some kind of moment to shine all to herself whether it be successfully firing Tsubaki, screwing Aizen's plan somehow, or just changing her mindset / how she views herself. If there isn't some kind of positive development in the near future I will be severely disappointed.
oh gallant piglet,: fighting spiritaizome on April 28th, 2010 09:56 pm (UTC)
*crosses fingers that she'll be the one to take out Yammy*

THIS! If this happens I'll be happy-dancing like a crazy person for weeks.
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Iselin: Rukia staaareiselinka on April 28th, 2010 08:04 am (UTC)
About the episode...

Well,I'm even more sure than before that I prefer the manga much more ^^ To be honest,I didn't like the parts they changed or added. I liked how Kubo portraited Loly and Menoly in the manga and after watching this... I don't know how to describe it. Too cliché? Maybe I got the wrong impression but I've always thought that those girls never saw Orihime's compassion as compassion (I'm not sure if it was a real compassion either. Hime is a good girl and she felt sorry for them for sure but her eyes were weird in those panels. I'm not sure what to think...). And I liked them being cruel - it was much more dramatic and maybe realistic. It's the same with Grimmjow. The way the anime changed his behavior towards Loly and Menoly was so sad. Like they took an important part of his character away from him.

Also Ulquiorra was acting like he didn't care at all which I found weird but maybe it was just me reading too much into manga ^^

I'm sooo glad that Ishida's back but they could have made his entrance a little better instead of focusing on Loly's release which was awesome by the way :D
Desireelibragoddess04 on April 28th, 2010 08:10 am (UTC)
"Also Ulquiorra was acting like he didn't care at all which I found weird but maybe it was just me reading too much into manga ^^"

Can you clarify this for me? Ulq didn't care in regards to what? Her shield for Ichigo? Her being attacked??

I agree that Loly's release was awesome, but I also liked Ishida's entrance. :D Swift and stealth -- AND he (of course) managed to talk some shit to Ichigo and emanate confidence. I <3 him! XD
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Mary: crymaryzza on April 28th, 2010 08:47 am (UTC)
sorry I really don't care for Inoue, I just... I'm so happy about Ishida.. Has been a while T^T

... ISHIDAAAAAA!!! You are back!! and you're amazing and super hot!!x333
kohi_no_torakohi_no_tora on April 28th, 2010 11:05 am (UTC)
While I, like many, do get rather frustrated for Orihime's... well let's say passivity I do not want her to fire of Tsubaki in rage. If she did I would go hide under the bed and tremble in fear. There can be motivations other than rage to unleash her power and its those she needs to find.

I feel I should point out that in general rage has been a rather counter-productive motive in every battle shown so far. Ichigo loses his cool and tends to get the snot beat out of him on more occasions than can be readily counted. Hitsugaya loses his cool twice and then gets played by Gin or skewered by Aizen. Ishida gets angry and sacrifices his powers. Soi Fon gets angry (or perhaps just very tsun-tsun) and winds up breaking down in tears in Yoruichi's arms. Komamura get's angry at his friendship being betrayed and gets one-shotted by Aizen. Yammy get's angry, turns into Yammyzilla and when last seen was just providing Byakuya and Kenpachi a bigger target.

Not a good track record.
_debbiechan_: orihime 341_debbiechan_ on April 28th, 2010 11:21 am (UTC)

Agreed. I don't see rage in Bleach as being a good thing. I want to see the Orihime who stood up with fearlessness and compassion and told Tatsuki not to cry, that this time it was her turn to protect her .

Orihime has fired Tsubaki before without "killing intent" it's been observed but maybe what she hasn't fired him with is a centered purpose. The two times he's failed she had back-up so to speak--Ishida or Ichigo. When she fired him successfully she had no one to rely on but herself. That's the way she always needs to fire him.
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shinigami002: shinigamishinigami002 on April 28th, 2010 12:18 pm (UTC)
I just wish she would stop making those weird gasping noises everytime she's on screen--they demean her already weak character and sound a bit too sexual. Her entire dialogue in this episode consisted of "*gasp* *gasp* kurosaki-kun *gasp* *gasp* matte *gasp* *gasp*" (repead ad nauseam).
nahlackasexical on April 28th, 2010 01:09 pm (UTC)
Completely agree; they're just not necessary.
シボ 洋蔥さん: Love is not a happy green fairynijibug on April 28th, 2010 12:44 pm (UTC)
I have to say the best part is at the end when you realize that Loli's been saved and is pinned to the tower by one of Ishida's arrows. It just put this huge grin on my face.
r0ck3tsci3ntist - sorry, kidding: yoruichir0ck3tsci3ntist on April 28th, 2010 02:08 pm (UTC)
ME too. But I can only see it in screencaps.
r0ck3tsci3ntist - sorry, kidding: yoruichir0ck3tsci3ntist on April 28th, 2010 02:44 pm (UTC)
I can't find the EP anywhere. People are saying UTube is taking them down... because the studio is cracking down on uploading raws and subs? And the direct downloads are taking way too long.

I really like the subs and I don't like the dubbed American versions so if that's the way it's gonna be I'll just give it a miss. Perriot usually animates poorly anyway so it isn't like it'll be any great loss.


*butthurt Bleach weeaboo is butthurt*

ETA - Oh wait, I found it! Looks like they gave Orihime a little more to do. The animation is meh. Not that strong an EP and yeah, Orihime. *facepalm*

There were things I loved about this arc in the manga but it still leaves me completely nonplused when it comes to Orihime. I've always had such hopes for her but right now I have no idea what to think of her.
nehalenia: rose i'd be entertained if it wasn't sonehalenia on April 28th, 2010 05:05 pm (UTC)
Her inaction in this part -- just like the last time she failed to defend herself from the Lolis, and in all the other times she could have done something and just sat/laid/stood there and looked helpless -- makes me facepalm endlessly. I really want an explanation for this behavior because compared to the way she was in SS, it's OOC for her. Honestly, it's maddening.
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pcuppypcuppy on April 28th, 2010 08:34 pm (UTC)
Ulquiorra's eye crinkle....it was non-existant ;A;

Really now. Anime-only watchers are probably going to be even more confused at the reach scene if they remove those little subtle things. Kind of like when they removed the scene where Ulquiorra listens outside Orihime's door when she's crying after they argue (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/262/14/). It's just one panel, but those little kinds of things are what sparked my interests in their interactions in the first place :[

Anyways, dunno how I feel about the fillerized bits either. Menoly/Loly didn't all of a sudden develop a conscience in the manga. Orihime never healed Loly or shielded herself from Yammy. I can't really decide if they made her more IC in the filler scenes or OOC because it isn't canon. Lol.

I also never interpreted THIS (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/343/05/) scene as Loly trying to protect Orihime. Wonder where Pierrot got that from O.o

Lol @ filler ChadHime (<3) and Ishida stopping to chat before saving Orihime from Yammy -_-
pcuppypcuppy on April 28th, 2010 08:45 pm (UTC)
Re: :|
I also never interpreted THIS (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/343/05/) scene as Loly trying to protect Orihime. Wonder where Pierrot got that from O.o

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/343/06/ ***
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nagasasu: witch hunter robinnagasasu on April 28th, 2010 09:37 pm (UTC)
Pretty much I agree with all the other commenters. I'm frustrated with Orihime's reliance on everyone else, and as much as I'd like her to go kick some ass with the rest of them, I don't think she has it in her to be an offensive player. She's much more suited to defending and healing. And for goodness sake, Orihime, just quit it with all the "kurosaki-kun"s! It was tolerable in the manga, but it's really annoying in the anime! I can see her using Tsubaki when absolutely necessary though.
jadeded on April 29th, 2010 06:34 am (UTC)
Dear lord, this episode totally explains why Ichigo left Orihime in Heuco Mundo. If by some chance they ever did kill Aizen,she'd probably wander over and start healing him before the dust even settled. I don't buy this 'compassion' bit. Inoue IS very caring, but healing decimated enemies who try to destroy her(several times...stupid filler moments) and not even bothering to protect herself has nothing to do with compassion. The girl's broken. She stands there on autopilot and does nothing but gasp and whimper until someone/anyone drops some blood and then she powers up automatically to clean the mess. Ergg. Sorry frustrated with this ep. I hope we find out what's going on soon in the manga, because I don't want to hate Orihime, but I haven't had a reason to like her in a long time.
nehalenia: no running on the moonnehalenia on April 29th, 2010 07:57 am (UTC)
I hope we find out what's going on soon in the manga, because I don't want to hate Orihime, but I haven't had a reason to like her in a long time.

Oh, this so much. :/
The Main Gauche of Enlightenment: Alphonse Mucha #2 crownvelvetsword on April 29th, 2010 12:04 pm (UTC)
And now-- 'Expostion' by Guildy, crafted of only the finest swear words known to man
I always kind of get a kick out of the whole "WTF Orihime why aren't you trying to do something against these chicks kicking your ass" because it's pretty obvious she doesn't WANT to do anything about these chicks kicking her ass. That was kind of the focal point of the last scene with the Evil Duo, wherein Ulquiorra was like "Nah, don't help her" and Ichigo's like "WTF"--

*warning-- opinions ahead, do not read if poss. easily driven to rage*

--In that Orihime's not going to do a thing to defend herself while there's the prospect of Ichigo defending her instead. Her avowed 'mission statement' as it might be termed is to get stronger and help Ichigo fight, but her actual innermost desire is to see Ichigo get all Soul Society in her defense. That's what she wants; Ichigo similarly has the avowed mission statement that he's here in Hueco Mundo to save Orihime, but his actual innermost desire is to get in there and bash some faces in. If there's any kind of horrifying duality to Ichigo and Orihime's positions in HM arc, this is it. Grimmjow, Ulquiorra and many other characters have lampshaded this throughout the manga.

Ulquiorra, by standing back and letting them kick her ass, and refusing to let Ichigo go over coupled with the whole "Don't get me wrong-- I'm not helping you" scene was him trying to get her to wise the fuck up and realize what she was doing. In so far as Ulquiorra regards Orihime as a strong woman, I'm sure it must irk him to see her doing stupid shit. In this he has much in common with the readers, who know Orihime isn't normally a blubbering sack of "KUROSAKI-KUN" but are forced to bear through the increeeeeeeeeeeeeediblllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyy sloooooooooooooooooooooooow pacing in order to (hopefully) reach the denouement promised by the whole "What the hell am I doing" moment Orihime had on the dome.

tl;dr never rage post in the morning

The Main Gauche of Enlightenmentvelvetsword on April 29th, 2010 12:08 pm (UTC)
Re: And now-- 'Expostion' by Guildy, crafted of only the finest swear words known to man

May this additional comment also bear witness to the fact that I don't think Orihime is doing a lot of this conciously, any more than Ichigo is doing what he's doing conciously. Orihime is a good kid. :(
(Anonymous) on July 1st, 2010 05:36 am (UTC)
I'd like Orihime to be a bit more aggressive and fight some herself; however, I can't see her rejecting someone's very existence. I don't think it could slide with her personality -- with her powers, yes, but her heart is not the kind of heart that wants to reject/erase people completely.

She's too kind for that.