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11 January 2010 @ 10:49 pm
Orihime's Feelings for Ichigo: An Analysis with a Surprising Result!  
So I'm standing under the shower this evening pondering my in progress mini-essay/list on how the good guys in Bleach, Team Ichigo, The Vizard and Soul Society have all been hit with the failure stick pretty hard in the last few arcs. (I find running water conducive to the thought process). So as I'm standing there an I am struck by an epiphany and its a good thing I was in the shower because I can just feel the flames coming for merely thinking such a thought.

Orihime does not love Ichigo.

A shocking idea, I admit but one that after a bit of consideration seems to be holding water. But what about her teary, heartfelt confession back in Chapter 237 I hear you ask. Its bull. A passing infatuation. A self-indulgent, escapist adolescent fantasy.

The basic idea I've got is of resolve and motivation being directly connected to emotional bonds. Let's start by looking at Chad. The poor lad has had a rather dismal track record when it comes to fights so far but we've never questioned his resolve. He is Ichigo's friend and that emotional link has carried him through both Soul Society and Hueco Mundo without faltering, at least on an emotional level, even if he has been stopped dead by running into superior opponents. (As a sidebar I am also of the belief that Chad's fighting on Ichigo's behalf is what is limiting him. He will not reach his full potential until he finds a cause of his own worth fighting for).

Next up, Ishida. His motivations are a little murkier. There's good evidence that he has growing feelings for Orihime and it is for this that he went to Hueco Mundo, but his motivations for going to Soul Society. There's probably a mix of things, a growing friendship for Ichigo, a dislike of Shinigami in general and Renji and Byakuya in particular after their encounter and general ideas of fairness. But that was not enough to keep him fighting when he ran into a greater threat of Mayuri. That took the revelation that Mayuri was responsible for his grandfather's death and to make it worse, finding out he'd been tortured afterwards. For that emotional bond, Ishida unleashed the Quincy Final Form. The fact that he kept fighting until being completely disabled by Szayelaporro, which by this theory means that his feelings may not yet be strong enough to carry the day, but they are at least sincere.

Now for Ichigo, but with a warning. This part implies an Ichigo/Rukia pairing a bit and while its not the original intent the logic does seem to follow if you accept the premise. But onwards. Ichigo's bond to Rukia is quite obvious, but Kubo-sensei was kind enough to explicitly spell it out for us in Fade to Black. 'She saved my life. She changed my world.' As such Ichigo's resolve in Soul Society is undeniable. He will not allow anything to stop him (and in typical Shounen Jump Lead fashion he's not going to go around any obstacle, he's going to charge straight through them). He beats any opponent who crosses him, including Kenpachi, blocks the Sokokyu (a feat that many Captains would have considered impossible) and in the final battle not even his own inner Hollow can stand in his way. He gets taken by surprise but regains control and basically says, 'Sorry about that. Let's continue.'

Even Rukia's reactions in the arc is telling. Even while struggling with her own demons she puts the welfare of her friends ahead of her own. Even while powerless on every occasion she tells Ichigo to run, to save his own life. True this can at least partly because of her own guilt and lack of self-worth, but even before she learns she's under a death sentence she still tries to keep Ichigo safe. Even to the extent of pretending that she never cared about him at all.

Finally Orihime and her track record is not as impressive. Yes she followed Ichigo to Soul Society but once there she lacked the resolve to do anything but heal (well and mug a couple of shinigami for their clothes). Worse still when it comes to Hueco Mundo she is rarely ever more than a passive observer. In his fight with Grimmjow she does nothing even while Ichigo barely manages to hold his own. It takes Nel, a child (or so we all thoguht at the time) who had just met Ichigo to prod her into even just providing emotional support.

She doesn't do anything either when Ichigo can't even defend himself against Nnoitora. Again its Nel, a very new friend who has to step up to the plate and overcome her problems for that instance. It doesn't work, but the mere fact the effort is made, and the fear of Nnoitora that Nel overcame speaks of the bond that has sprung up in a short space of time.

Then the Ulquiorra fight. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. This was bad all around. There is a faint glimmer of hope when Orihime throws up her shield, but it ultimately amounts to nothing. (Though on that thought, even if she hadn't gotten the resolve to use Tsubaki, a battle where Orihime used her shield to protect Ichigo and allowed him to focus on taking the offensive would have been a thing of beauty). It sound really bad when you just say it like this, but even at the end when Ichigo lies bleeding and broken on the ground she is nothing thinking of how to save him (since that is well within her power). Instead she cries out for him to save her and in doing so awakens The Beast. Ishida loses an arm, everyone gets the crap scared out of them and Ulquiorra is forced to briefly become a doomed hero. (I may not like the ship, but at the end Ulquihime shippers may have been on to something)

By the logic displayed by the other major characters so far it is hard to argue that any but the most tenuous of bonds really exist between Ichigo and Orihime. Her actions are not those of who loves someone so much they wish they could live five lives so they could fall in love with the one they desire five times. I instead put forth that Orihime simply has a girlish crush on Ichigo that she has built up into the idea of a grand romance and Ichigo is a somewhat arbitrary choice to play the male lead. This is not a condemnation but something she has been culturally primed to do and if she had not been caught up in world shaking events it probably would have played out with a few broken hearts and all parties involved a little older and a little wiser.

Now the tricky part. What I am about to put forward here is more or less pure interpretation, more so that what I've written so far. It's not an interpretation that I'm going to insist on, but merely put forth to show that certain facts that at first glance run counter to this theory (and I do mean theory, not hypothesis) can in fact support it if looked at from a certain light.

The main kicker, at least as I see it, is that Orihime went with Ulquiorra to protect her friends (and primarily Ichigo) when he threatened them. The threat is certainly convincing since they had just been rather conclusively beaten, Ichigo especially and there ability to defend themselves is in question. She was thinking of Ichigo and trying to protect him, just like Rukia did when Renji and Byakuya took her away.

But the situation is actually quite different when you look at it. When Rukia left, with Urahara and company's past still a mystery as far as anyone new it was just a lone subsitute shinigami who been rather badly beaten and his powers taken away, a lone Quincy who'd gotten a slightly less brutal beating and two humans with strange and poorly understood powers. But after just before the Hueco Mundo arc the situation is quite different. We know about Urahara and Yoruichi, they have the full might of Soul Society on their side and new allies in the form of the Vaizard. Orihime has options that Rukia didn't.

Instead she chooses the same course of Rukia and this may be telling. She's seen the intensity of emotion that Rukia's dissapearance caused in Ichigo and she's admitted to being jealous of Rukia, wanting the same sort of bond with Ichigo that she has. Already primed with all these romantic ideals she chooses (probably unconsciously) to take the path of the tragic heroine in an attempt to provoke the response she wants, but it all winds up back firing rather spectacularly.

I do stress again, this is not a condemnation of the character, merely an attempt at trying to understand her better. The end result is rather unexpected conclusion but I think that if I'm right, it makes Orihime a far more interesting character and one you don't see all that often. Even when you do find such a character they tend to be antagonists in romance series rather than a sympathetic protagonists in a fighting series, a genre that tends towards the formulaic.

So what do you think? Agree? Disagree? Think I need my head examined?
hinodeh: gangstahinodeh on January 11th, 2010 01:08 pm (UTC)
I personally share this opinion and therefore really can't offer you any intelligent counters.

I especially agree with your last bit: it's indeed extremelx rare that a girl who acts like this, whether consciously or unconsciously, is a main character who is, for the most part, supposed to be liked by the readers. Girls who act like this are usually portrayed as vile bitches rather than complicated and flawed people.

Good work. I enjoyed reading this.
Super Nintendo Chalmers: beautiful rukiastrawberries_85 on January 11th, 2010 01:28 pm (UTC)
Girls who act like this are usually portrayed as vile bitches rather than complicated and flawed people.

And this is why I love Kubo and his ability to create such 3D, complex and reletable characters.
I know Orihime is not very liked at the moment, but I am a firm believer in the fact that this will slowly change. She will have her moment to shine.
Super Nintendo Chalmersstrawberries_85 on January 11th, 2010 01:18 pm (UTC)
I actually agree to some extent. I'm glad I'm not the only one who could come up with this theory lol.

Yeah, at times I've felt like Orihime might have "subconsciously" gone with Ulquiorra to evoke the same response from Ichigo and Rukia, to gain approval and recognition from him and thus feel worthy. But when a woman has to gain approval from a man to feel worthy, it's not a positive sign.

The problem is, Orihime had numerous chances in Hueco Mundo to at least try to protect Ichigo. The Grimmjow fight, the Nnoitra/Tesla torture, the Ulquiorra fight. But she just stood there passievly repeating "Kurosaki-kun". My theory is, if she at least tried and kept trying for this man she loves, despite being in a futile situation, Ichigo would have noticed her. He would have noticed her wanting to protect him, to fight alongside him and thus, she could have slowly gained a higher place in his heart. The women who become Ichigo's protectors/ray of light are those who have been most important to him. Masaki and Rukia. I believe Orihime blew her chances to become that to Ichigo.

But then again, Ichigo is to blame as well. When Orihime has tried to fight alongside him/protect him, she gets a half-assed "thank you" and he hardly acknowledges her power. I mean, I think for her to be able to keep up with the Ichigo/Ulquiorra fight and cast her shield to stop Ichigo's head being sliced off, is quite a feat. He just doesn't notice her at all, he simply tells her to back off, more or less. Orihime is not happy about that, nor does it do her any good.

But she keeps wanting Ichigo's approval and his protection. In a sense, she's fallen in love with an illusion of Ichigo, she saw him as an unbeatable hero, she placed ALL her faith in him, despite him being just as flawed as anyone else. Orihime put Ichigo on too high a pedestal, she never truly got to know the real Ichigo, to be able to fall in love with him, imo. Her feelings feel more like hero-worship to me. Orihime fell in love with "Kurosaki-kun" and not "Ichigo", if that makes any sense. But since the events at the dome, her false reality has slowly started shattering and I think this will be good for her development.

Hope that makes sense.
Super Nintendo Chalmersstrawberries_85 on January 11th, 2010 01:38 pm (UTC)
I was going to add a thing about Orihime being kidnapped in there.

Now, she might've done it for the "tragic heroine" part, subconsciously, but I also feel like she mentally cornered herself into thinking she had no other choices.

12 hours is a pretty long time. Did she have no faith at all in her friends abilities, in Urahara, Yoruichi and their SS allies perhaps? Or did she feel so worthless herself, worthless to others that she needed to have her faith reassured by becoming "the sacrifice" and then "the rescuee"?

I dunno...I keep coming back to the point that I feel she sacrificed herself in other to gain approval/recognition from others, thus gain self-worth. But that is not the way to go about things at all, thus why Orihime failed in Hueco Mundo.

That makes even less sense.
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oh gallant piglet,: fighting spiritaizome on January 11th, 2010 01:18 pm (UTC)
I'm laughing over the running water vs. incoming flames remark. ^^

As a sidebar I am also of the belief that Chad's fighting on Ichigo's behalf is what is limiting him. He will not reach his full potential until he finds a cause of his own worth fighting for.

YES! I've knocked the idea around in my head for a while, but never had the balls to really say it. Thank you for having said balls, and I agree completely. The weakest we've ever seen Chad was not after losing a fight, but after Ichigo told him "Let me handle this," when Di-Roy showed up. That scene threw the poor guy's resolve right off kilter, and only the need to prove himself to Ichigo caused him to get strong enough to go to HM. (And as we know, once he got there, he discovered untapped powers way beyond what he'd been working on.)

Now 'Hime (and yeah, I like her, but you bring up some great points):

Her actions are not those of who loves someone so much they wish they could live five lives so they could fall in love with the one they desire five times.

DESIRE. That's the word that stuck with me here, and is the word that makes most sense. Desire is not love. I do believe Orihime thinks she truly loves Ichigo. But that's where age and experience come into play. People who want to excuse her faults due to her being "a 16-year-old girl" can't have it both ways. A 16-year-old girl who obsesses over a boy who treats her no differently than any other friend DOES NOT KNOW what "love" really is.

Already primed with all these romantic ideals she chooses (probably unconsciously) to take the path of the tragic heroine in an attempt to provoke the response she wants, but it all winds up back firing rather spectacularly.

WOW. This point is something I'd never considered before, but it's a very interesting one. You may be right.
Super Nintendo Chalmers: calendar-rukiastrawberries_85 on January 11th, 2010 01:30 pm (UTC)
I am so glad to see another person to agree with, in regards to Chad. That is why I am so anxious to see a greater focus on him and to have Chad gain his own reason for fighting, his own resolve.

I do remember reading that Kubo said there will be a greater focus on Chad in the future. I can only hope it comes sooner rather than later. The gentle giant needs more love.
ayshariham on January 11th, 2010 01:25 pm (UTC)
I agree with the concept of "emotional bonds" being related directly to "resolve".
Inoue definitely has only a crush on Ichigo, and nothing more. But even the feelings of first "love" are something to be treasured, and Inoue surely meant whateever she told him the night she left.
The recent events in the manga will jolt her into realising that she's not in love with Ichigo, I hope...She isn't ready to throw her life on the line for him. (Sensible choice, but not romantic =P )

Inoue didn't have much of a choice when Ulqui came. The difference between her and Rukia's "kidnap" is that Rukia was forced away, almost bodily, while Inoue had a choice, though she didn't couldn't see it then. I guess, having the heads of all your friends on the line against your own life is scary. I think it was pretty brave of her to walk away,leaving behind her life, all alone, thinking she was protecting her friends. For her, it must have been something she could finally do for them. She wasn't planning on having them come rescue her. Ofcourse, on a subconscious level, I do not know if she wanted them to come. So eventhough I'm inclined to disagree with you on this point, I feel your comments hold weight...

Sorry for rambling aimlessly lol, just wrote down whatever went through my head. Loved reading your essay btw =D
incandescens: Aizen Coffeeincandescens on January 11th, 2010 02:37 pm (UTC)
There is also the point that Orihime is the sort of person who wouldn't break her given word. When Ulquiorra gave her the choice of "come with me or I kill your friends", she agreed to go with him.

While admittedly some characters would have gone, "Wait, we're being allowed to wander round unsupervised for the next few hours? Excellent! Let's forget the whole deal and go to Ichigo/Urahara/Ishida and tell them everything!" Orihime isn't the sort of person who would have done that. And given that Aizen had been spying on her beforehand, he probably knew that when he set it up.

(. . . also, if I was Aizen, I'd have put a monitoring device of some sort in that bracelet in order to make sure she didn't try anything that would mess his plan up.)
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Rin: James Dean: Rebel Laughamaranthinesong on January 11th, 2010 02:37 pm (UTC)
Great essay, I basically agree with everything you said. I don't hate Orihime, but I definitely view her the way you do. I feel that if she came into her own, I might like her more than I do now. But so far she's just made me somewhat angry, haha.

Also that tidbit about Chad really resonated with the way I perceive him.
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on January 11th, 2010 03:09 pm (UTC)

Already primed with all these romantic ideals she chooses (probably unconsciously) to take the path of the tragic heroine in an attempt to provoke the response she wants, but it all winds up back firing rather spectacularly.

Amazing! Someone who isn't an active shipper person or me or Syn figured this out! Syn and I have been saying this for months to much mockery from IchiOri shippers who assume we meant that Orihime made some sort of conscious bitchy decision to imitate Rukia.

Yeah, and karenai came to the conclusion that Orihime doesn't love Ichigo in her infamous essay but having been sixteen and having crushed HARD, I still call those feelings love. They follow a biological imperative, are the stuff of high romance and big dreams but they're all one-sided and have nothing to do with the
messier aspects of "true" love which is reciprocal, closer to friendship and involves sacrifices on both sides. Orihime maybe has yet to learn about honest sacrifice because she doesn't trust in herself and by extension, her nakama. She wants to be saved. It's an actual psychological phenomenon that was written about a lot in the 80's--the Cinderella Complex, LOL. And women suffering from it didn't have superpowers in their barrettes.

Hell, if I'd had Tsubaki, I don't know if I'd ever bothered to get married. I'd be so busy being ultimate!debbie the superhero. Ichigo's got that problem--he wants to save mountains of people so when will the boy ever find time for romance?

*needs coffee*

*loved your entry*

*five gold stars*
『ミカオル』 ☆: sawakomikaoru on January 11th, 2010 04:33 pm (UTC)
*wonders where is her Orihime icon*

That was awesome and I agree wholeheartedly. I admire people who can put all their thoughts together and make amazing essays with them.

Though I always thought that ch237 was very sweet and innocent, I always knew it was a 'high school crush confession' (the fact is that she uses the word 'suki' that, as far as my japanese knowledge allows me to know, it can be compared to english's 'like'). I was 16 once too and, as Deb said, we think it's love.

I like Orihime, she's a very deep character and as such, she has ups and downs. This current 'down' though is everything I don't want her to be. Weak, without resolve, passive, whiner .. I know she can do A LOT better, she already demonstrated it in past arcs. So I'm waiting for her shining moment; and I know that moment will be when she confront her own feelings for Ichigo and overcome them.

Can't wait to see Orihime shining for all her nakama.

Instead she chooses the same course of Rukia and this may be telling.

THIS. Thanks for telling it.
peca_06peca_06 on January 11th, 2010 06:33 pm (UTC)
I am happy to see that yet another person has similar theories and thoughts ^_^ and yes, they are not to be bashing any characters, but they are legitimate concerns about these said character's (like Orihime) behaviors and "thought processing" given to her by Kubo. She is a very deep, layered and complex character, even though I don't agree with her questionable choices and incredibly fantastic/romantic perceptions of the World around her, I can feel sympathetic to her in instances.
Following Rukia's footsteps, I believe, was an unconscious decision and like Strawberries_85 said "she mentally cornered herself" on her choices. I don't think she meant any harm or had ulterior/premeditated motives, but deep inside there was longing for her to be treated like Rukia and be "cherished" by Ichigo, in this case, but it is probably triggered in part by her deep feelings of loneliness and sadness (since she said that she only started to feel "jealous" of Rukia when she is home alone and not at school - Speech to Rangiku- that made me think of that).

Wether she is loved or hated, she has her importance and a role to play on Bleach. I await anxiously to see what her development and realizations would mean to her, her nakama and the plot in general in the near future. Wonderful essay a delight to read ^_^.
Kim!: Mmm... Jump...spartydragon on January 11th, 2010 06:40 pm (UTC)
I agree 100%. And good call on Chad! That never even occurred to me!
(Anonymous) on January 11th, 2010 07:25 pm (UTC)
some things I disagree over (not about the main idea)- adds/"""corrections"""
I miss Renji in the resolve-bond-motivation-VICTORYYY part :C okay, you don't need everybody to prove the point...

When Orihime fought against Yammi, she didn't lack resolve to fight. Tatsuki and Chad were in great danger- just like in her first fight, with Tatsuki and Chizuru on the line, where Tsubaki was successful. Perhaps she don't want to kill, but the bond was the same.
This was only plot-driven and drove Orihime, according to the theory, in deeper Ichigo-worshipping.

And about Rukia-
/but even before she learns she's under a death sentence she still tries to keep Ichigo safe./ and the others too! I think she has shown the most care/understanding for her friends-
she even crawls further after the fight against PseudoKaien and said that she will save Orihime! Aww, so cool.

Oh and Ichigo in the HM-Arc wins constantly with lacking resolve, it seems, except in the early parts where he fought seriously when Nel was in danger?!? Ok, he got punctured from Ulquoirra the first time. Oh well, dunno.
sorry for bad English and for not commenting on the main theory
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on January 11th, 2010 08:03 pm (UTC)

Well, if I'm understanding you correctly, it's not the love of one's nakama that is the sole determinant of one's will and therefore success in battle. It is an important factor but not the sole determining factor. When Orihime faced Yammy that first time she was clearly outclassed but also at that point, she hadn't trained, didn't know the extent of her powers--her fairies still needed days to heal people (witness how quickly they healed the Lollis versus the time they took to heal Chad) and she wanted to hold Yammy until Ichigo showed up but she was in fact waiting for Ichigo to come to save the day.

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incidents and accidents, hints and allegations: Aizen - recognizemaeveth on January 11th, 2010 08:57 pm (UTC)
She doesn't love him; she's in love with the idea of him.

YES that right there.

Orihime isn't in love with Ichigo, she's in love with love. She's just happened to plaster Ichigo's face over the faceless 'prince' ideal. One of the things that I think she's severely missing is that in a real romance 'love' doesn't have a happily-ever-after because it doesn't end. I honestly think she's not seeing beyond her 'prince' sweeping in to rescue her...what happens after the prince shows up? What if he's actually a toad but she's too busy looking at him through prince-colored glasses? What if her prince routinely has to go bail out Soul Society, leaving her at home with those 2.5 kids? What if, what if, what if.
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silverkun2silverkun2 on January 11th, 2010 09:33 pm (UTC)
This issue is more of a difference in interpretation of the word "love." Many people look at it for what it is and still think that it's love (Debbiechan, for example). And that's perfectly fine.

Regardless, to me Orihime's "love" doesn't seem to do a lot of good when push comes to shove. She's scared to put her life on the line, and it seems that this fear even holds more priority than her friends' lives. The resolve to "do whatever it takes, or die trying" is not something we really ever see in her. She's just not that type of person. And I suppose that's not necessarily a bad thing, but in the world of Shounen, it really is.

Now I don't have a lot of experience in love, but if I have to give my 2 cents... Orihime's feelings just seem shallow to me. It looks like to me that it isn't even Ichigo that she really loves, it's some fake image she's built up. She wants a knight in shining armor to save her from everyone without getting hurt at all in the process. So she tries to impose this fake image on Ichigo and in doing so she appeals to his hero complex... And he treats her just like some fragile object in response.

As she looks at his mask, she's afraid of him. That's one of the main things that got me. A lot of people just say "she was traumatized by what happened to Sora." And that's more or less true, Kubo even showed us a panel of hollow!Sora so that we could see Orihime's mental comparison. Now that's all fine and good, but there's quite a difference here: Ichigo's has full control over himself. Just because he has a mask and black/yellow eyes doesn't mean he's another Ichigo. He was talking to her just like Ichigo would, telling her simply not to be afraid. Do you think hollow!Sora or hollow!Ichigo would say such a thing? No, hollow!Sora was only jealous of her crush on Ichigo and her friendship with Tatsuki. Hollow!Ichigo just wants to kill everything.

But she couldn't see past the mask. Because to her, a change in appearance amounts to "this is not the Ichigo I know." Certainly, she knows his everyday-life self quite well, but even though she worships him as some kind of amazing hero figure, she can't deal with the reality of him fighting. She just stands there and panics, trying to compare her fake image of him to the Ichigo she sees in front of her. Nel actually has to remind her that she should be more concerned for him than scared of him.

Because really, who in their right mind is ever scared of the one they love? If you are then isn't that pretty telling?

Furthermore, Ichigo is concerned about his friendship with Orihime when he sees her fear of him, and this messes up his ability to fight a bit.

But when Rukia saw the mask, she certainly showed no signs of fear. She was just concerned for him. I'm not saying that Rukia is in love with him or something absurd like that. Because obviously there's pretty much nothing romantic between Ichigo and Rukia right now. But even so, their relationship is not nearly so superficial. They both focus more on the other than themselves.

Debbiechan made a particularly enlightening point, I think: Love is more about giving than taking, and people with self-esteem issues put a lot of focus on taking by nature. So it seems selfish and superficial. Which, to me, it basically is. It's just a crush.
eris4eris4 on January 11th, 2010 11:11 pm (UTC)
I'm not a fan of Orihime, but she wouldn't have never put her friends in danger in order to get Ichigo's love. She's not that type of girl.
eris4eris4 on January 11th, 2010 11:18 pm (UTC)
Uhm, sorry if I appear to be rude, but that's not my day, really <_<"
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erisalia on January 14th, 2010 04:15 am (UTC)
I find it very intrigueing that she only said shed love him 5 lifetimes. If you think about it ichigo has already died a total of 3 times here. I dont know but if kubo were thinking to make this romantic wouldnt he have her say something to the extent of "Ill love you forever"
Or " Ill love you for eternity, kurosaki-kun."

Am I the only one that finds it strange that she said she'd only love him 5 lifetimes?

Not only that but I havent encountered any ichihime fan that can answer me on this.