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09 January 2010 @ 12:10 am
Orihime's Actions on the Dome (Thoughts about an ongoing Discussion)  
I spent more than a hour composing a nice little essay earlier today and LJ ate it. As with all catastrophes, I came away the wiser. I learned from friends that 1) Lazarus 2.0 is a necessary add-on if you use Firefox and are given to composing spur of the moment manifestos on the Internet and 2) I really must care a lot about my fandom if mere hours after growing ox horns, snorting fire out my nostrils and swearing I would leave bleachness  forever, I decided to recreate the entry. Well, maybe I just care about Orihime that much. Honestly, she's my favorite female character in Bleach.

Here goes. (I'm sorry that what follows is only a very abbreviated version of my essay--maybe I can recall some of my more original thoughts about the topic if you engage me in the comments).

Orihime's Actions on the Dome; Where Fans Place Blame or Assign Impunity (Thoughts About an Ongoing Discussion)

Fans don't behave themselves when it comes to discussing a certain Bleach character named Inoue Orihime. Feelings run deep. The love and hate for this character is intense and sometimes the F-word (feminism) gets thrown around.

A fan named Ichi-nii, may good fortune fall upon his brave soul, asked a hot button question in the Orihime Fanclub at Bleach Asylum the other day (The thread starts at post 756 on this page:  bleachasylum.com/showthread.php). There have been few discussions at BA about Orihime that haven't ended up with posts being deleted, a banning or two, and I believe all threads about her in the manga-proper forum have ended up being closed.

Maybe the planets were aligned just so, but the discussion ended up being relatively wank-free (although several participants, myself included, sometimes treaded past the club rule that Bleach guys aren't supposed to be discussed in relation to Orihime--the original purpose of the rule was to avoid shipping wank but the rule effectively stifles character discussion and sometimes posters can noodle around it) I got to post to my heart's content about my favorite female Bleach character and clarify some of my thoughts about her development and it was thanks to Ichi-nii's question. That bold question was:

Why did Orihime scream for Kurosaki Ichigo's assistance on the Top of the Dome?

Bleach readers who aren't avid Orihime watchers may think the answer to this question is obvious--the girl panicked, understandably lost her battle-fatigued, fragile mind for a moment, and screamed out in desperation to a corpse.  After all, the scene is a familiar trope--a damsel cries out in distress and the hero rises to the occasion. In this case, a dead Ichigo literally resurrected into a powerful and raring new form to combat whatever was threatening the fair maiden. The page below from chapter 350 shows us this very scenario.There are readers in the fandom who see this page as the definitive one for the Lust arc; in other words, it tells you all you need to know.

Then there are those readers who will tell you that "things are not always what they seem at first" in Kubo Tite's story. I'm one of this group--I believe that fans who get stuck on the above page don't consider the story before or after, let alone nuances in the panels or the overriding theme of Human versus Hollow (as in Ulquiorra becoming more human and a Good Guy, TM, while Ichigo becames a Hollow and the Bad Guy, TM during the same battle). Our group will argue that in keeping with Kubo's love of paradoxes and parallelisms (e.g. a kindly bespectacled Shinigami captain becomes cruel!smug !ultimate! villian or a goofy dad becomes badass!Shinigami fighter--there are many such revelations in Bleach), the hero who rises to protect Orihime is not really a good guy. The first hint we have of his badness is when testing his weapon, Ichigo's new form sends the person he intends to protect flying violently across the landscape and crashing against the ground. Orihime is saved from subsequent faceplants and injury by Ishida.

She seems so vulnerable here. She's the sixteen-year-old in a land of ghosts and monsters and she's watched her friends suffer greatly for her sake. What possibly could this character have done in these chapters to provoke some Bleach fans to hate her and cause some of her own fans to say "hey, the girl's disappointed me" or "this is Orihime's lowest moment in the manga?"

The fuss about whether Orihime's actions on the dome are blameworthy, praiseworthy, sympathetic, selfish or whatever may confuse fans who don't keep up with fandom or follow her character very closely. Some of you may wonder why a lot of Orihime's fans are dissing their own favorite girl.

We're taking our expectations for Orihime from Orihime's expectations of herself. In the chapter "Don't Look Back," Orihime set a clear goal for herself.

Then, right after the Ichigo that had responded to Orihime's call for help impaled Ishida clean through with Zangetsu, Orihime thought, "It's all my fault" and blamed herself for not fulfilling the above vow and depending, again, on Ichigo.

Why else would Kubo, who rarely gives his characters internal monologue unless its very significant, delineate Orihime's actions (or as many would argue, her significant inaction) on the dome with these telling self-reflections? The first, preceding the Lust chapters, gives us her vow to fight and not depend on Ichigo and the second, following the battle, tells us about her disappointment and self-blame.

Although interpretations of the Lust chapters fall all over the place as all interpretations of Bleach can, there are two distinguishable camps that tend to divide along shipping orientations. Fans who ship Orihime with Ishida and Ulquiorra see Orihime as flawed and blameworthy (although not entirely unsympathetic or unbelievable) and those who ship her with Ichigo see her as faultless. It's hard, therefore, for discussion about Orihime's character development to take place without fans somehow championing for their fave guy for Hime in the subtext of their arguments. Maybe one reason why the recent discussion at the fanclub went relatively smoothly is that Ichi-Nii is an IchiOri shipper and he qualified his original question (Why did Orihime call out to Ichigo on the Dome?) with the following (sometimes all it takes is for one shipper not to tow the party line, and a tense topic can proceed as more of a discussion among individuals rather than the usual battle between two contingencies):

I just find the scream for help by Orihime, and please dont take this offensively, but reallly selfish of her almost because of the disregard for Ichigo's condition.

That scene is without a doubt in my Mind, Orihime at her worst state, even she asks herself why she screamed for his help and couldnt answer.

Am I missing something, and just being alittle tough on her in this situation? Or is it something that we just going to have to wait and see in regards to her development?

Thank You for your responses

As often happens before discussions can get good and lively, someone tries to definitively end all discussion with the platitude "it's all a matter of opinion." I want to show that there are not only matters of opinion at stake here when discussing events on the dome; some actual facts are being contested by fans, and as always, when facts are being debated, someone is right and someone is wrong.

One of the first answers to Ichi-Nii's question was this one:

It is a matter of opinion because I feel that what she did wasn't wrong. It wasn't selfish, it was an act of pure desperation. She tried to heal him and it didn't work. Her friend was getting beaten by Ulquiorra, who wouldn't scream for help when everything she has done has proven to be futile, and she is bascially rendered powerless to help?

I answered in the thread:  Whether or not Orihime is "selfish" is indeed a matter of opinion--that's a judging word. But whether or not she was powerless to help isn't a matter of opinion--it's a matter of fact that she wasn't powerless.

Here is a girl who has untapped powers that are G-dlike and she didn't even use a power she'd used before--namely, her offensive weapon, Tsubaki. She didn't call on her own powers to help the situation.

That was fact one: Orihime was not powerless when she called for Ichigo's help.

Fact two in contention: She didn't use Tsubaki because he hadn't worked before.

There's no manga evidence to suggest that Orihime made this conscious decision. In fact, there's plenty manga evidence that Orihime had been reminded of her vow to fight and of her hesitancy to follow through with that vow in Hueco Mundo. True, Tsubaki had failed on his last run out. But Orihime had not hesitated to use her shield on the dome and her shield was already failing in protecting Ishida. It had worked before in an earlier part of Ichigo's bout with Ulquiorra, but it had disintegrated as quickly as her resolve when Ulquiorra challenged her. Ulquorra challenged Orihime not with his sword but with his mind. He wanted to know as why she hadn't intervened in the fight before (chapter 342).

I call attention here to Ulquiorra's calling attention to Orihime's hesitation to act, intervene, fight alongside her nakama. Sometimes villians are full of bull; sometimes they are necessary antagonizers to move the plot; other times, they act like narrative reminders of what the author wants to emphasize--in this case, Ulquiorra's question should make you recall Orihime's vow to fight alongside Kurosaki-kun the next time she saw him.

But to continue with the fact in contention--Orihime did not use Tsubaki because she knew he wouldn't work--Orihime was using her shield on the dome even though that shield wasn't working too well. She kept throwing that shield up to protect Ishida from Ulquiorra's oncoming whip action on the dome. She was also continuing to use her healing powers on Ichigo when to all visible appearances, Ichigo wasn't getting any healthier. Had Orihime simply forgotten that Tsubaki was in her arsenal? I don't know. When people argue that Orihime is, by nature, not a fighter, I like to counter that if her fairies are manifestations of her character, then she is one sixth a tiny lean mean scowling personage who can slice an opponent clean in half if fired with the proper intent.

Who's to say that the reason Tsubaki failed all other times he was fired wasn't because he was a weak weapon but because he wasn't used properly? Hacchi told Orihime that her powers depended on her will; it only seems to follow that if she fired him with the proper intent, he might do a nice job of taking down any formidable opponent.

And what if Tsubaki was inherently a weak weapon? The other nakama were growing stronger in Hueco Mundo, either as a result of the reiatsu-rich atmosphere or as a result of fighting all those shounen fights and gaining resolve and experience. Ichigo had learned to control his Hollow form. Orihime, too, as Ichigo observed during the Kenpachi/Nnoitra fight, had experienced a power boost herself--her shield was stronger. It stands to reason that if her shield mysteriously became stronger in HM, then maybe Tsubaki did too. Maybe the Tsubaki nestled in Orihime's barrette on the dome was an inherently stronger one than the one she had fired on earth.

No, the argument that Orihime didn't fire Tsubaki because she made a conscious decision that the little feller wasn't going to do any good doesn't hold water. It's not a well-supported fact at all. It's just a fan excuse for Tsubaki's glaring absence.

Orihime had plenty of reasons to think Tsubaki might work.

And even if she thought he wouldn't work, why didn't she fire him?

My answer? It makes for a good story. I said early in that Orihime fanclub thread that it might help if people stopped thinking of Orihime's character as being maligned whenever someone pointed out that she'd made a mistake on the dome. Those of us who believe that Orihime failed to do all she could on the dome, failed in her vow to fight alongside her nakama and failed again in her wanting to not depend on Ichigo aren't crying FAIL! FAIL! FAIL! because we like to taunt you with the word. Some of us actually think of Orihime's failures as a gift from the author. It's only important characters in a story who get to royally mess up and then overcome the error of their ways. While most of Orihime's fans will admit that Orihime suffers from low self-esteem and paralyzing self-doubt, they will draw the line when it comes to saying she actually did anything wrong. I'm saying here and now that ORIHIME DONE WRONG.

But in terms of her potential character development, this is a blessing. It's a surefire guarantee of future panel time. Orihime the girl who done wrong is more likely to get attention in the manga than Orihime the damsel who cried merely out for help. Damsels can fall by the wayside and serve no further purpose to the plot beyond inspiring the hero the next time he needs a power-up. Conflicted protagonists and wrong-doers get great scenes, internal monologues and brilliant redemptive moments of self-realization.

I wrote: This is standard shounen formula. Heroes lose to their opponents before winning; weapons are misfired before they're used effectively; you fail before you win. Orihime is an important character in this arc and as such she's being treated with super duper FAILURE in order to give her character uber development. Before you know it, she will, as all young heroes and coming of age protagonists do, get her wits together and fulfill her vow.

Orihime asked herself the question up on the dome. "In the end, why did I want him to save/help me?" Writers don't ask these sorts of questions in a story without eventually giving us the answers. I believe that we'll soon find out why Orihime called out to Ichigo on the dome without firing her one offensive weapon. It's my opnion and disagree with it if you will but I believe that on some subconscious level Orihime truly wanted what she asked for. Save me. She wanted to be saved by a prince. She didn't believe in herself or in her own powers which are said to trespass on the realm of G-d, and she called out on a fallen nakama, a dead man, to save her.

It was a mistake, in every way I see it. I have compassion and understanding for it, but I can't see it as anything but a mistake--one that she will recover from and emerge all the stronger from, of course, as in all feel-good, coming of age stories where the young protagonist finally understands his or her self and her powers and limits.

My friend BHaddrell suggested in the Orihime fanclub that a proper course of action for all these young fighters with deficits in the way they use their weapons or don't work with their nakama would be to have a nice little meeting at Urahara's to discuss how to better themselves. BHaddrell's suggestion is the perfect solution, of course; too bad perfect solutions don't make for interesting stories. Story drama relies on characters making mistakes and lots of them.

Whether or not Orihime made a mistake on the dome is a matter of interpretation. I'll give you that. I can not prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that she made a mistake; I can only argue why I believe she did. The one who did the obviously very bad things was Ichigo, not Orihime--he's the one who killed Ulquiorra and stabbed Ishida in the gut. Orihime inaction on the dome wouldn't go to trial; her mistake was personal, intimate, maybe a matter of not doing her best rather than doing anything wrong. Ichigo's actions, I'm fairly certain, would get a guilty as hell conviction from most judges and juries in the real and fictional worlds.

Nonetheless, Orihime was the trigger for who Ichigo became.

One Orihime-is-faultless diehard wrote:

I guess I'm never going to see how she was wrong in this. She's not psychic, she had no clue that Bull!Ichi would come to be when she screamed for his help, I don't blame her for it and I wish she never blamed herself.

My counter was this one: People don't have to anticipate the exact consequences of mistakes in order to make them. That's why the law distinguishes from negligent homicide and murder for example. Some mistakes require forethought and some mistakes are just mess-ups, misunderstandings, carelessness or unpreparedness. The fact that Orihime didn't know what the results of her mistake would be makes her more sympathetic but the fact that Ichigo rose as a monster as a result of her mistake makes Kubo's story a little didactic here. He's telling us that when you don't rely on yourself and rely too much on others, those upon who you rely can break.


Sometimes I wonder about fans who believe that Orihime did no wrong on the dome. How will they deal with it when Orihime does indeed fire Tsubaki successfully? No doubt they will cheer Orihime but will they do it with as much relish as those of us who felt Orihime's self-blame as
some sort of dark, hard self-knowlege and a special sort of suffering that could only be alleviated by a redemptive act?

The contingency of the Bleach fandom that places blame on Orihime for not doing all she could on the dome also tends to view the Ichigo who rose up in answer to Orihime's cries as a very bad thing. It's outside the scope of this entry to speculate how Ichigo is going to atone for all the bad stuff he did while he was in the form that answered Orihime's call, but I do wonder to what extent Orihime will play a part in Ichigo's redemption. It may be that she doesn't play a part at all. If she doesn't, then we can honestly assume that insofar as the moralistic symmetry of this story goes, she wasn't to blame for the very bad things Ichigo did.

Fans who ship Ichigo and Orihime seem to have an investment in seeing this new form of Ichigo's as Orihime's savior and good guy. I'm not sure I understand this stance. First, I have trouble with their overlooking the very bad things Orihime's savior did on the dome. Second, while Ichigo is no doubt responsible for his own mistakes (not just killing Ulquiorra and stabbing Ishida but maybe allowing his Hollow to overtake his body and consciousness), Ichigo's mistakes are irrevocably tied up with Orihime's mistakes. If I shipped Ichigo and Orihime, rather than deny that my pair had any problems to begin with, I would hope that the manga might somehow find my pair solving their own problems together one day. A good story, ne? Maybe one with lots of angst and tears and subsequent togetherness?

I have my own reasons for believing that such togetherness is not meant to be, but this isn't a shipping essay. My own prediction is that Orihime will take care of her guilt by finally using Tsubaki in the right context, maybe protecting a nakama (maybe a nakama she'd failed to protect before--Ishida?)  At this point I'm uncertain as to how Ichigo can assuage his guilt and redeem himself but I suspect it's going to be in the good old-fashioned shounen way and will involve fighting and swording and stuff exploding and buildings falling down. Orihime will eventually reclaim Tsubaki, that little killer fairy, as part of her true self one day, but the thought of Ichigo eventually gaining control of and reclaiming his new form--that THING that emerged on the dome--as part of his true self is a very disquieting idea.

You'll notice that so far in this entry I haven't called the Ichigo that rose to answer Orihime's cries by my pet name for him, IchiThing. That moniker is controversial in fandom. Some Ichigo fans say it demeans Ichigo. Somewhere on Bleach Asylum, a fan was heard to apologize even for referring to this new form of Ichigo's as a "monster" because the designation was "disrespectful" to Orihime's savior. Color me a whiter shade of pale over all this insistence that Ichigo's new power-up was a Good Guy, TM.  If it has horns, looks scary, kills its opponents for no good reason once the battle has already been won, and stabs a nice guy like Ishida, I'm not going to worry about disrespecting it. And that's overlooking the fact that it's a work of fiction and not even a fictional being who only remotely resembles a human being. If it acts like a monster and quacks like a monster, then I'm going to call it a monster.

I hereby declare that henceforth in this community and in all walks of fandom I will resume with my calling of Ichigo's ultimate Hollow form as IchiThing. I have canon support for my nickname; Ichigo himself referred to that form as a "thing" :

This entry is too long already but I want to include one last point of mine from that Orihime thread. It occurred to me while people were singing the same old song about how young Orihime is and how therefore blameless she is for her inaction and errors on the battlefield that her nakama are young too, they faced their own personal demons in Hueco Mundo, and not all of them were trained Shinigami. Take Ishida.

I wrote:

Psychological stress? The nakama? All of them experienced psychological stress in HM. And not all of them are seasoned, trained Shinigami warriors either. You can make the excuse that Rukia had years of experience to cushion her trauma of seeing her mentor's face behind the Espada who was trying to kill her (still, wow, what a trauma), but let's take Ishida--the youngest of the nakama (by months only, but in the canon timeline, he's the only one who has yet to have his 16th birthday). He experienced pain, torture, sexual humiliation (things that Szayel did to him were on a par with what Nnoitra did to Orihime on the battlefield) and then the murderer of his grandfather who had desecrated THOUSANDS of Quincy bodies showed up to rescue him and further humiliate him.... and yet on the dome, he fought against all odds, with one hand and one Seele Schneider, presumably to the Death, just to buy Orihime time to heal Kurosaki. He never wavered. He faced the horned powerful creature that Ichigo had become and tried to reason with IT only to get stabbed....

*shakes head and clutches heart* Excuse the Ishida fangirl moment but I do think it's relevant that Ishida had such a miserable time in HM, felt miserable and then was able to prove himself on the dome. Like BHaddrell said, I don't think Ishida feels like a hero, but at one point with Orihime, I think she connected to his feeling the stress of not having done everything he could on the battlefield. I remind everyone of the following panel, not for shipping reasons, but to stress that here is where the author tells us that Orihime may be identifying with Ishida's feelings of inadequacy here. This may foreshadow her overcoming them the way he did when he faced Ulquiorra and then IchiBeast/Thing/Whatever. Orihime wants to be of "use on the battlefield."

Trust me, she WILL be.

It's been more than seven months since we've seen Ishida and Orihime on the dome in real time, but it's only been maybe 20-30 minutes in manga time. Enough time to talk about what's happened, restore and recuperate as Orihime heals him? I hope so. All I know is that I cherish a dear, dear wish for Tsubaki to be the one to take down Yammy. Imagine the justice--Yammy was the one who shot Tsubaki to pieces the last time he was fired, and it would be funny for a little dude like him to take down the mega-beast that Yammy is growing into (Yammy is going to be able to reach over the dome and pick off Ishida soon!)

The problem of how Ichigo and others will deal with IchiThing and its sins may be subject of another arc. I can't even start to predict there, but like all fans, I have my little hopes about how the story will go.

The one thing I wish for even more than Tsubaki's appearance and that I forgot to include in my wish list for 2010 is for fans to just stop freaking bashing on one another over Orihime. So there, one realistic very likely to be realized wish (Tsubaki) and one impossible dream (peace among fans). I make both with equal fervor, and if everyone behaves in the comments to this entry, maybe I can kid myself that I can have my cake and eat it too.

The End (gah, I had so much more written earlier today but that was the best I could do in recovering my lost essay)

MT: Orihime & Rukia- Not your average girlsdbnext on January 9th, 2010 08:14 am (UTC)
Even when you get knocked down by an acting up LJ Deb, you get back up and try again. Interesting that it was in an essay about the will to persevere XD

Anytime someone brings up the "Orihime's not a fighter!" arguement I just remember what she herself said on this page.

She had to be dragged away literally kicking and screaming to not fight the scientist who wanted to experiment on HER. She even says she wants to save Ishida herself. That's the Orihime I really loved.

So really, it's not that she can't, and she is by no means a pacifist. She just did not have the will to fight here. There's a difference.

I'm sure Orihime has so many haters now for a reason. If she was meant to be likeable during this arc, she would have the fans to back it up.

Myself I'm just frustrated because as I said, I really fell for the original happy, dorky, and willfull Orihime that had one of the most badass standoffs back in Princess and Dragon chapters, but that girl is just not around anymore. If she had stayed that way I may have wound up an IchiHime shipper, but the obvious fail is obvious and I'm just hoping for her revelation and turn around to come soon. It's a painful wait but the development will be delicious.

marvellous monsterfikuz on January 9th, 2010 09:37 am (UTC)
I miss that Orihime so much. Although, the thought of what Mayuri could have done to her makes me shudder.
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silverkun2silverkun2 on January 9th, 2010 09:16 am (UTC)
Actually it's already been 3 times lol.

1. Against the random hollow.
2. Against the shinigami with that zanpakuto that could transform into a bunch of different blades.
3. Against Yammy.

Ironically, the 3rd time was also a phail...
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silverkun2silverkun2 on January 9th, 2010 08:58 am (UTC)
Just wanted to say that I agree.

Yeah, I understand that Orihime, having seen her friends get hurt trying to rescue her (she felt Chad's and Rukia's reiatsu drop, she saw Ichigo's mask when he fought Grimmjow like an animal which reminded her of hollow!Sora, and now this is the second time she's seen Ichi with a hole in his chest, and Ulquiorra taunted her about it after he did it), was at a breaking point.

And it does make me feel some sympathy for her. Really, I like to think I'm not heartless.

But if you put this into context, you can clearly see that Kubo is portraying FAILURE, not just a little mistake or a "knight saves the damsel in distress." Because it is a shounen, difficulty generally exists to be overcome. Limits exist to be broken.

You must realise that no other character has taken this long to deal with an inner struggle. Sure, Ichigo has been struggling with his inner hollow for a long time, but he wasn't always on the losing side.

No, Orihime hasn't been able to really put up a fight since that time she protected Tatsuki when she first gained her powers. In the SS arc, she said she had been useless. When she tried to stand up to Yammy, she failed. Not only that, when he's in a position where he can't protect her, she jumps in without a plan, even when he yells at her to stay away. When she saw Ichigo fighting Grimmjow, she didn't even try to help him fight, and furthermore... She was actually scared of her own friend. When he was fighting Ulquiorra, she hesitated to even shield him.

Which is funny because every other member of the nakama, every notable shinigami, every vizard, every arrancar.... They don't do like this. Even Hacchi will get up and fight if need be, without hesitation. Chad will go through anything to protect his friends, especially Ichigo. Ishida, though he had trouble in HM too, put everything on the line against Ulquiorra, without any hesitation, even though he did little more than buy some time. Even poor little Hanataro stood up to Byakuya just to buy some time.

But Orihime is always saying to herself: I don't want to rely on him, I don't want to get in the way, I want to fight alongside all of my friends.

Why then, when it comes down to it, does she hesitate, doubt herself, and give up? Just because you fail once, you don't have the right to stop trying. Not when lives are on the line, anyway. Just because you're afraid, that doesn't give you the right to hesitate, even for a second. That second could be the difference between life and death for your friend.

She has the potential to help out in battle, to be a fighter.

The point I want to make is simply this: She's not pathetic. So why do you people try to pass her off as a pathetic person? Because when you try to use things like "she's just not a fighter" or "her heart was broken" or "she's just 15" or "she didn't have a means of helping" or "she couldn't be expected to know what to do in this situation" or whatever else as an excuse to justify her scream to his corpse for help, that's what you're doing.

It's true that she probably wouldn't have been able to do much better than Ishida even if she tried, in this situation. But that DOESN'T give her the excuse to not try. Not when her friends need her. Not when their lives are at stake. Not when one of her friends just died trying to protect her.

Not when EVERYONE ELSE is making sacrifices, putting everything on the line.

PS. It's true that this is basically a paraphrased version of Kylara's (Karenai on here) views. I read her essay on this and I agree 100%.
silverkun2silverkun2 on January 9th, 2010 09:18 am (UTC)
Dang it, I made a mistake and also forgot to add something.

1. When I said "hasn't been able to really put up a fight" that's not what I meant to say. It's not so much putting up a fight that matters, the effort is what really counts. It's what's in your heart at the time that matters. She let her fear, her despair overcome her. Fighting is just as much an inner struggle as it is a physical struggle. If we knew that she didn't have conflicting feelings, and if we knew that she didn't hesitate... If we knew that she wasn't just relying on her friends for help, then I would be alright with it, because at least then she could say that she was giving everything she had to fulfil that promise she made to herself. So, looking at it like that, it's not her fight to protect Tatsuki that we're looking at. The last time she really did this was her fight against Yammy. Even so, she's still taken longer than any other character to resolve an inner struggle. In a shounen, at least, it's pretty much an unspoken law that the main heroes/heroines must get stronger and put forth some effort to confront their problems. That's the way it's always been... And even if you apply this to real life, it works too, because you need to remember that lives are at stake. This is a battlefield we're talking about.
2. I meant to add that I agree about IchiThing being a bad development. This bloodthirsty animal-like THING is *not* a knight in shining armor. If you look, you'll realise that it was acting just like Allon, actually. Striking the same poses, yelling the same yells, scaring the same crap out of everyone. It did not differentiate between friend and foe. Even if it chanted incoherently about protecting Orihime, its actions tell another story. It made no attempt to control its power so as to avoid hurting her. If she was in the way, she would just get flung too.
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tamzin: orihimeconquistadora on January 9th, 2010 09:46 am (UTC)
Tsubaki vs Yammy redux is also on my Bleachdreams list, I can't lie. XD The fight would be justified and it would be a good way to redeem her after the mistakes she made. As for how much powerful he may have become, I have my doubts if it would be due to the reiatsu in HM. Her Rejection powers seemed to have become strong according to Ichigo, but her shield, as we saw, was just childsplay against Ulquiorra's tail... though one can argue she was in a heightened defeatist state unlike that moment during the NoiKen fight. But if it's a matter of willpower, then I would expect her to be able to bring out the full potential of Tsubaki if she has all of her heart set on defeating an enemy and NOT just waiting for Ichigo to show up.

She was just an eyesore (other than the fanservice) throughout this arc for general readers, and I can understand how they and other fans just couldn't deal with all of her mistakes with the Dome experience or be able to forgive her. But as an Orihime fan, I have expectations, and I will continue to criticize her, without actually hating her, until she returns to the Orihime that I once admired and believed would do great things.

I can't see people letting up on Orihime any time soon, or until she does something useful with Tsubaki--anything would do Kubo! She doesn't have to defeat Yammy, she can defeat Hollowpup for all I care! Just kick some ass!
_debbiechan_: PUPPY_debbiechan_ on January 9th, 2010 04:19 pm (UTC)

Hollowpup! Awww, I'm really hoping to catch a glimpse of him again! If Orihime takes him out, I'll be sad. :( I'd like Nel to adopt him once Yammy is gone...
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maryloc on January 9th, 2010 09:59 am (UTC)
Thank you so much for made the effort and re-write your essay! It’s really and interesting one. Have you tried to write it first in Word and then copy-paste it? That way if LJ eat it at least you will conserve your entire writing in a document ;)

About Orihime’s actions, I agree with the “girl that wants to be rescue for her loved one” complex theory and I think that wondering herself "why did I ask for help?" was her first real step to be consciousness about it (I think Ulquiorra’s words were the first step to make Orihime and unaware readers consciousness about that point but her own reflexion is what leave established a future develop for her in this concrete aspect).

“But to continue with the fact in contention--Orihime did not use Tsubaki because she knew he wouldn't work--Orihime was using her shield on the dome even though that shield wasn't working too well. She kept throwing that shield up to protect Ishida from Ulquiorra's oncoming whip action on the dome. She was also continuing to use her healing powers on Ichigo when to all visible appearances, Ichigo wasn't getting any healthier. Had Orihime simply forgotten that Tsubaki was in her arsenal? I don't know. When people argue that Orihime is, by nature, not a fighter, I like to counter that if her fairies are manifestations of her character, then she is one sixth a tiny lean mean scowling personage who can slice an opponent clean in half if fired with the proper intent”.

I agree with that too and I think that she actually forgot about Tsubaki. I’ve already posted this elsewhere but my answer for the “why wasn't she protecting Ichigo the whole time” infamous question is that, during Ulquiorra/Ichigo’s battle, she totally forgot how to be useful. I think that she was so exceeded for her own spiral of dependence towards Kurosaki-Kun and her anguish feelings that she forgot her own “active” power. She was expecting Ichigo’s victory first, and then be the healer of those battle injuries because that’s why fairytales work. She forgot that she actually could have been an active part of that battle. Of course that she wouldn’t have a chance against Ulquiorra but in the end, in those apparently lost battles, is your own willpower what counts and your wish to try to do something useful.
Orihime is not one of my favourite characters but I really like her and it has been exasperating seeing her like this because, in my opinion, her so called love made her weak and useless. However, I know that she is going to have a great redemption moment and I also think that maybe doing something against Yammy is a possibility just because the parallel will be awesome.

“Imagine the justice--Yammy was the one who shot Tsubaki to pieces the last time he was fired, and it would be funny for a little dude like him to take down the mega-beast that Yammy is growing into (Yammy is going to be able to reach over the dome and pick off Ishida soon!)”

That will be really interesting to watch. Very David and Goliath’s imagery.
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on January 9th, 2010 04:21 pm (UTC)

Oh oh oh oh oh please Kubo-sensei! David and Goliath indeed!

And yes, I usually write things I intend to rewrite in Word (like stories) but most of my essays (believe it or not) and bleachness entries are composed in a very short time right on LJ. Now that I've got this lazarus thingie though, I can save comp form texts too! That means losing no posts on forums either!
K.: Byakuya and Renjipolina_slosvau on January 9th, 2010 11:03 am (UTC)
Mmm, a very good read. Thank you!

I'll always, always prefer a flawed character to a flawless one and I love Orihime, especially because her psychological barriers are treated so realistically. I love how she's essentially the most powerful character in Bleach - and the weakest, the only one so pathetically lost for direction. I love how she's in so many ways Ichigo's female counterpart (not in a romantic fashion, the way I see them).

But yeah. I'm always happy about characters fighting to overcome (and perhaps, succumb to) their psychological issues. And luckily for me, it just happens in Bleach all the time. ^^ I don't think Orihime needs to learn how to fight anything except herself; we already know that she can fight if her issues aren't weighing her down. But as opposed to Ichigo, her means to fight herself are so very limited (Ichigo, at least, has Zangetsu)...

Okay, I'll stop rambling now.

_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on January 9th, 2010 04:22 pm (UTC)

Orihime's other talents (shielding and healing) are so extraordinary that she doesn't really need a whole repertoire of fighting moves like other warriors. Tsubaki is just there for when she needs him. The thing is--she has to know HOW to use him and under what circumstances.
kohi_no_torakohi_no_tora on January 9th, 2010 11:24 am (UTC)
Orihime, too, as Ichigo observed during the Kenpachi/Nnoitra fight, had experienced a power boost herself--her shield was stronger.

I wonder if it perhaps more telling that while her shield may be stronger, that's not where the really big power boost is. I would ask all and sundry to cast their minds back into the dim and distant past in that period after the initial encounter with Gin at the western gate and before going to Kukaku's place.
Jindanbo's are, if not completely severed was quite close to it and it took Orihime several hours of healing to re-attach it and even then it wasn't complete. She just got the job done enough that it could finish healing on its own. Fast forward to her inital interview with Aizen and she recreates Grimmjow's missing arm out of nothing. Later she even brings the dead back to life, including one who had been partially vaporised by Grimmjow's cero

I hereby declare that henceforth in this community and in all walks of fandom I will resume with my calling of Ichigo's ultimate Hollow form as IchiThing. I have canon support for my nickname; Ichigo himself referred to that form as a "thing"

Personally, and with a little amount of ego possible I belive that 'thing' is far too wishy washy for such a being. Ichigo is more or less trying to dodge his responsibility for what happened by trying to treat it as a seperate entity rather than part of him (okay, personal interpretation, but one that has some supporting evidence). So while I respectfully applaud your choice to continue using the term in the face quite frankly baffling opposition I shall continue to use my chosen appellation. For a creature of primal impulses, shorn of intellect, emotion and all restraint I will call it what it is. The Beast.

but the thought of Ichigo eventually gaining control of and reclaiming his new form--that THING that emerged on the dome--as part of his true self is a very disquieting idea.

Once again I must respectfully disagree, at least in part. I will be happier for Ichigo if that particular manifestation never rears its horny head ever again but he must come to grips with this if he is to ever reach his full potential. This is again a good deal of personal interpetation but I've covered it elsewhere why I think The Beast represent his true potential power. It's not the form that is important but that such power exists.

Through the entire arc Ichigo has been struggling with his power. His fights with Dondorri and Grimmjow are... particularly indicative. While I'll never be the first to accuse of Ichigo of good tactical sense if he was as desperate to save Orihime as he said, during his fight with Dondorri he wouldn't have come out with that... pardon the language but complete bull about saving his mask for stronger opponent. He would have busted out the mask and charged straight through until he ran into someone strong enough to slow him down (which is more or less what he did in Soul Society).
The final (to date) Grimmjow fight was a little different but the fact remains that he remained reluctant to use his power to its full extent (and suffered because of it when Nnoitora showed up) and even when he started holding back less he never used anything like bankai super-speed or the more creative shaping of a Getsuga Tensho that Shirosaki showed off against Byakuya.

Ichigo fears his power and The Beast is that power manifested. Worse yet from his perspective everything that The Beast is, is born of him. Orihime may have triggered it but the forces that created it were born of Ichigo own subconscious. He must come with terms with all this if he ever hopes to reach his full potential and become the hero of the piece.
oh gallant piglet,: fighting spiritaizome on January 9th, 2010 11:32 am (UTC)
He must come with terms with all this if he ever hopes to reach his full potential and become the hero of the piece.

Exactly what I've been saying since his Vaizard training was interrupted. Well said.
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oh gallant piglet,: fighting spiritaizome on January 9th, 2010 11:26 am (UTC)
Hey, at least you did get one of your holiday wishes from your poll here. Aizen did crack a bit! :D So IMO, there's a good chance Tsubaki is gonna make a return before Orihime leaves HM. I wanted Chad to at least rip off one of Yammi's arms, but that was snuffed out. Ishida got a great shot in, causing the pratfall. So now all that's left is for Tsubaki to fly through the back of Yammi-Colossus' throat and sever the spinal cord. (Ok no, Kubo, I'm not picky. Any variation of the above would be awesome, really.) :D
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on January 9th, 2010 04:30 pm (UTC)

I want Tsubaki to fly up Yammy's nose. XD
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lookoutsunshine: rage - Ichigoshynishyshallow on January 9th, 2010 05:00 pm (UTC)
I agree with all you said about Orihime - she may not be my favourite female character, but I don't dislike her (or even despise) like some Bleach fans do. I simply can't do it, perhaps it's out of sympathy or simply because I like her.

But just one thing I disagree:

It occurred to me while people were singing the same old song about how young Orihime is and how therefore blameless she is for her inaction and errors on the battlefield that her nakama are young too, they faced their own personal demons in Hueco Mundo, and not all of them were trained Shinigami. Take Ishida.

I wouldn't take her age into consideration, but rather her experience. All of nakamas except her were since the very begining familiar with fighting. Other than shinigami, therefore soldiers, we have Ishida, a Quincy, who was trained and taught to fight hollows since he was a kid. Then there Ichigo and Chad, both fightingh buddies since childhood. And Orihime? She's just a mere girl who true fighting only saw in TV. Not only that, but she is also shown in canon as a very insecure of her own powers.

That probably doesn't justify her at all, but she's perhaps the only character in Bleach we can indetify with. She's a normal girl. So when I think that I could be thrown into such a cruel world and told to fight, I'd be terrified to death and definitely wouldn't be half as brave as Orihime.
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on January 9th, 2010 05:19 pm (UTC)
I still beg to differ. None of the nakama got any REAL fighting experience with Hollows and monsters until Bleach started--they all pretty much witnessed the same horrible stuff in Soul Society and Hueco Mundo. Insofar as training goes, Orihime trained with Yoruichi and Chad before the SS arc and she trained in SS with Rukia before the HM arc (remember Ukitake looking fondly on them and saying he thought Orihime would make a great Shinigami when her time came?) She had experience AND training.

She's very far from a normal girl. She acts like one and that's why I love her but normal girls don't have superpowers.

You know, now that I think of it, if I had anything resembling her powers I'd be testing them out all the time just to see what they CAN DO. I'm curious like that, though. Orihime may be afraid of her own strength. But the point is that she's not normal--she has superpowers and those blessed with incredible power are obliged to use it for good.

Edited at 2010-01-09 05:21 pm (UTC)
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n a o k o || want your rad bromance: Itoshiki- Thinking hardnendo_chan on January 9th, 2010 05:20 pm (UTC)
Your essays are always so wonderful- I'd never have the organization to put all my thoughts down like this. I definitely agree with what you've said about Orihime, Ichigo, and Ishida- few people will admit that Szayel did in fact do things of a very non-con sexual nature to him, amongst all the other shit he's gone through.

One thing- isn't it late November in canon? Ichigo spent about a month from early September training with the Vizards, as I recall, and then there was some extra time in between, meaning Uryuu would be 16... I think. It's not that important, I was just a bit confused. xD

I personally stick to my guns that Aizen will be Tsubaki's next victim, so to speak- Kubo will disappoint me if the Big Damn Hero, as questionable as that status is right now kills/defeats the Big Damn Villain.

As an UlquiHimer, though, I'll admit that while what I perceive between them does affect my perceptions of them to some degree (I can't deny my feeling that each changed the other in some way), her interactions/relationships with others have weight with my perception of her as well. People are not islands, though Ishida may try and this is especially true for friendship- and interpersonal relations-oriented Orihime. She as a person/character has been influenced by others in different ways, from Tatsuki to Ichigo to Uryuu, Chad, and one I think a lot of people forget- Rukia. All of them have given her different types of volition and support both inside and outside of possible romantic connotations, and the same is true for any of the characters, and any real person. In other words, shipping isn't the only factor in this- her flaws that stem from herself and the dependence on others are going to be outweighed by all the positive influences eventually, and when she picks herself up from this slump, enemies beware! This isn't to say she's been nothing but pathetic this arc- I cite the slap scene, for instance. Simple as the gesture may have seemed, he's the 4th strongest Arrancar in Las Noches, maybe even more with his Segunda Epta. How many teenage girls have the guts to reprimand someone they know could crush them in an instant like that? Yeah, she's undeniably had her screw-ups, but we've seen glimpses of that old "I'll fight the psychotic scientist, too!" mindset, and I do think it's coming back soon, stronger than before.

And again, this is why I don't write essays. Did any of that make sense?
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on January 9th, 2010 05:26 pm (UTC)

LOL, you made wonderful sense. I'm not entirely sure about the timeline--last time I checked it was late October... time just SEEMS to have crawled.

Yes, the slap scene was another glorious instance of Orihime on fire! I felt she was angry at herself at that moment more than she was angry at Ulquiorra. If she can recover that sort of passion, imagine what and who she can take on!
Ulquiorra isn't around to challenge her anymore--or is he? He still lives in her heart and maybe it will be something he said that inspires her to fight again.
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Vayshti: bleachvayshti on January 9th, 2010 05:48 pm (UTC)
I actually read the lost essay, and this one, Deb (I must have got it between two versions or something).

I think this one is an improvement: the points you make are crisper.
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on January 9th, 2010 06:04 pm (UTC)

You did? You don't have a copy do you? The first version couldn't have been up for more than five minutes yesterday afternoon and it was already garbled--LJ ate the whole middle of it which is why I deleted it. Only the first three paragraphs were what I managed to save.

LOL, I'm glad you liked this one, though. I wrote it in an OCD haze of trying to remember what I said, not in the first rush of gathering my thoughts (which is more fun when you're composing a fan essay on the spot).
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There's no Love Without youne_wayz on January 10th, 2010 12:15 am (UTC)
I've always found Orihime to be a highly interesting character. In all the years I have watching and reading anime/manga, I've always wished for the shoujo girl to comeback and be some type of badass fighting machine, and Bleach has seemed like the only one that has that potential. I KNOW Orihime has what it takes to be badass and to fight alongside her nakama, but, as Debbie pointed out, there are things she needs to discover and overcome before she can do that.

A while ago, I wrote somewhat of an essay about Orihime and hw she has changed through the arcs. Honestly it wasn't very well written and the ideas were all over the place, but I would like to go back to that. Kubo must have something in store for her since he has given her so many pivotal moments in the manga.

I'm still rotting for her!!!! ^_^ She will rise and blast someone into oblivion!!!! I know she will!!!
Kioko: Ichigo { Rukia's Bunny }5pristinepetals on January 10th, 2010 04:46 am (UTC)
Finally, an argument for Orihime's actions that I actually liked. Just based on personal preference, I don't like Orihime but I understand her character. Which is why my own bias wasn't the main force in why I didn't... approve of what she had done. I sincerely thought she was better than that - we've seen her determination in the very beginning of her powers (0 fighting experience!) when she saved Tatsuki, and to me, she didn't show that at all during the Lust chapters. She failed herself and then admitted that.

It baffles me, (yet doesn't surprise me) that some of Orihime's fans defend her to the death. Their excuses shame their favourite character. I agree with you, she is in a perfect spot for some serious character development here. Kubo's a good storyteller - he wouldn't just bring a nakama character down and then just leave them there o.O

People talk so much about Orihime, Ichigo and Ulqui in those scenes... it makes me feel bad for Ishida. Guy got blasted, stabbed, violently un-stabbed (er- Ulqui's pulling out of the sword) but still managed to protect Orihime and save Ichi's humanity. Makes me want Renji to do something super awesome too.

Oh yeah - kudos to you! This was an amazing piece of work. You arranged everything beautifully. Really great points here.
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on January 10th, 2010 03:05 pm (UTC)

It baffles me, (yet doesn't surprise me) that some of Orihime's fans defend her to the death.

While there does exist a portion of fandom that believes Orihime is a pretty perfect princess who can do no wrong, I think that sometimes her fans are pretty staunch about defending her only because they have to counteract some of the very vocal "Orihime is a loser, kill her NAO, KUBO" stuff out there. It's when fans like me get called HATORZ that I roll my eyes. Usually using the word "selfish" is indicting enough. There have been multiple incidences of the boys in the story acting selfish, foolish, reckless, and doing things without care or thoughfulness--from Ishida's using the Hollow bait to Ichigo's running off to fight with Ganjyu when he should've been focused on his mission. Why can't Orihime have faults like the boys do? Kubo Tite ain't Walt Disney. Orihime doesn't break into song every other chapter and birdies don't alight on her fingers when she smiles. This is shounen fighting manga and she's got a power in her barrettes that can kill. Tsubaki is there for a reason. There's no Tsubaki in the Little Mermaid's hair.
karkashan: sweetcakekarkashan on January 10th, 2010 05:52 am (UTC)
Wonderful essay as always. It's nice to see a truthful take on Orihime's character that doesn't bash her for her actions, but instead looks at it as room for her to grow. (She better, is all I'm saying. Tite better cram that in somewhere. Or something. In the end, he'll do it his way and I'll probably praise him for it, even if it isn't what I initially hoped for)

I'm wondering why LJ's auto-save function didn't work though. Maybe a hiccup in the site code somewhere?
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on January 10th, 2010 03:09 pm (UTC)

Oh LJ saved the garbled essay--in HTML too--it just ATE a whole bunch of it--how I do not know. It was unretrievable but I'm over it now.

Yes, Kubo doesn't disappoint. Eight years of manga and not once have I been truly disappointed or shocked in a bad way by anything he's written. He's picked up every stitch. He surprised me in pleasant ways. I've laughed hard and cried hard. I love Bleach. The art gets more wonderful all the time, and the story moves slowly but surely. I know not everyone's on board with Bleach this way but I am and it's fuuuuuun.
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jenny_jadejenny_jade on January 10th, 2010 06:08 am (UTC)
The only conclusion that I could think for why Orihime didn't use Tsubaki on the dome... is rather simple than I thought. It was:

Orihime just didn't want to attack.

Well, her power based on her will. It's HOW she wanted to do.

As for the reason WHY she didn't help herself to transform into Super Saiyan and attack Ulquiorra to protect/revenge the so-assumed love of her 5 lifetimes named Ichigo, Ulquiorra asked this similar question before. Yet thanks for Ichigo's heroic interruption, no one could get the right answer out of him. So the reason for her odd behavior as for her less-to-nonaction in sin chapters went to the 7 wonders of mystery. Maybe it was because Ichigo kept telling her "stay back" every fricking time when she tried to interfere and saved his ass. So she just sat back on her ass and watched the act of a prince saving the princess from a dragon regardless whatever happened around her <--- I also wondered why Orihime didn't make a sound or lift any fingers to defend herself even when the Loly sisters abused her. This is a girl who have black belt karate that knocked out 2 grow-up shinigami by herself using her pure strength, yet couldn't even deal with two puny sisters. The hell? I didn't want to mention her other magical power.

I agree with Deb's essay that maybe Orihime really did want Ichigo to save her or at least she hoped that Ichigo would do the act that might look like he did save her aka protecting her from ebil everywhere, be it from Ulquiorra, Yammy or Loly, be it her conscious or unconscious desire. But as you can see, Ulquiorra didn't put much his effort on the act as attacking/hurting/harming Orihime while Ichigo would rather be happy to fight from being challenged by Ulquiorra's statement of "the one must be destroyed" than put Orihime as his priority choice of purpose for coming to the fifth tower.

Orihime wanted to see Ichigo act as her prince, but she hadn't seen it. Unfortunately, the time when she got herself in DiD situations, Ichigo had never been her prince... Alas, the first time with Loly, Ichigo attacked Loly together with Orihime with his Getsuga while Ulquiorra saved both of them by stopping Getsuga. The second time with Yammy, Ichigo was stopped by Ulquiorra and Ishida was the one who did the act of a knight shinning in amor saving a maiden from a brute. She hadn't seen an action that proved Ichigo would protect her. I don't really think she wanted Ichigo defeating Ulquiorra... though I guess she did want Ichigo fighting with Ulquiorra for her sake... using his own body to protect her. Well, maybe just to prove her hope that Ichigo did have some romantic feeling toward her and her well-being.

I think that might be why she was so shocked when she witnessed Ichigo's death from Ulquiorra. Because the play of her delusion had been shattered. The prince was laying dead. The knight was being beaten. Orihime didn't understand her own role in the new script which was rewritten by Ulquiorra. So she asked regardless whether Ichigo is laying there dead or not.

Actually, I don't think that she asked the Kurosaki-kun who was laying dead on the dome for "save me" but the Kurosaki-kun-prince version in her head which was supposed to come out everytime the princess in distress. Somebody might said that she was in denial that Ichigo was dead rather than accept the truth that he was dead. Instead of getting her ass up and protecting everybody as a main heroine against Ulquiorra, she chosed to ask the same person who told her what she should do at the beginning of this battle. Just because she had been told "stay back" and she disobeyed for going up to the dome and saw the tragedy.

Sorry for the ranting. I just confused much about her mentality for not acting anything worth to consider her love with Kurosaki-kun on the dome. I guess instead of blaming others for Kurosaki-kun's death, she had been blaming herself for causing his death <-- you see, if she had interfered the battle right at the beginning, this tragedy wouldn't happened.
ayshariham on January 10th, 2010 01:30 pm (UTC)
Re: Rant
I agree with you about why Inoue didn't use Tsubaki - I'm pretty sure she didn't "want" to attack Ulquiorra. She knew he was an enemy but she didn't hate him, did she? And she probably knew if she fired him half-willed anyway, the only one getting damaged would be Tsubaki himself.
I wonder about the way her shield works...Has it ever broken when she tried to protect herself? (I hope not, because when you're in danger, survival instinct kicks in and ANYTHING would do if you want to make it out alive, strengthening your resolve)I know it's broken multiple times when she tried to protect others...Does that mean her will power wasn't strong enough? (Does being upset or scared affect the strength of her shield?)