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25 December 2009 @ 03:23 am
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Pages 18 and 19 about killed me. Especially Hisagi's face at the bottom of page 19. Poor guy looks like he just completely lost his damned mind.

Oddly enough though, I'm not really interested in Ichigo's arrival, so the long wait for the next chapter won't be too bad (for me), I guess.

Also, LOL the color spread offers innuendo to everyone with shipping goggles on, and that amuses me to no end. Chad and Ishida are totally up to something, standing there all alone. LOL
 
 
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Kashino: Bleach-Ichi-hostkashinosei on December 25th, 2009 09:38 am (UTC)
Aww, Hisagi seems so lost and confused with his mind~

yeah, the exchange between Shinji and Aizen's a little too short~~

Happy Holidays!!
♀*La Muerte Chiquita*♀: vagabondla_kalaka on December 25th, 2009 09:45 am (UTC)
What could I say? Maybe I'm easy to manipulate, maybe is the fact that I loved Tousen in the old SS days when he just made Ishida faint out instead of killing him off and even shed a tear for that young boy who has been fighting to end in that "war" .

When Kubo showed us he was in the bad side, I felt really dissapointed and mad towards him and his hipocricy and betrayal towars his friend ideals. But now even if I was mad at him the past chapter and though that his resurrection fit his horrible personality... I'm not mad anymore.

Maybe because I have a tiny hope about him. Maybe because my dislike towards him wasn't as big as the dislike I feel for Aizen. Maybe because he finally gain an understand through Komamura and Hisagi (a plot thread has closed here). And I loved the whole scenario that Kubo create to us, his readers. I felt so relieved to see shedding a tear towards Komamura's words (Komamura has been amazing in those last chapters) and saying THANK YOU to him because captain-wolf has been no other but a really loyal and amazing friend. And asking to Hisagi to get closer to him to see his faces again and remember it, like a father to his child... and then...

That.

I'm not mad anymore, I can't. It was a pretty horrible final, but it was a good end for Tousen, in the sense he was able to see clearly in the end, to understand Komamura, to be at peace with Hisagi and to regain those bonds again. In the end he didn't die alone, he died with his loves one next to him.

Now I felt so much for Hisagi and Komamura. More for Hisagi, for real, this guy has got me in this chapter ;______________;


Btw, I don't think this is Aizen entire fault. Tousen did the decision alone, I'm sure of it. He choose to be with Aizen to get his revenge. Of course he respected the man, but in the end Tousen barely aknowledge him, his life was centered in his friend and his bond with Hisagi and Komamura.

And I'm glad for that too.

I like this even if I'm so sad about it ;_;.




oh gallant piglet,: komamuraaizome on December 25th, 2009 09:54 am (UTC)
Well said.

I was mostly neutral about Tousen until he showed resurrection. By the end of the previous chapter, I was satisfied with that being his end, and acknowledged it as very tragic. But I'm really glad he got this last scene with Koma and Shuu, even though it ended even more tragically. That tear he had... it choked me up.

Also (on a shallow end) I'm glad now I can finally go back and look at Tousen fan art without seeing that hideous bug.
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Cairnsy: santacairnsy on December 25th, 2009 09:47 am (UTC)
Especially Hisagi's face at the bottom of page 19. Poor guy looks like he just completely lost his damned mind.

I can't say I blame him. He deliberately chooses a method of hollow execution that involves not having to look at the hollow's face, only to have to meet Tousen's gaze when Kazeshini's attack actually finishes Tousen off when he runs out of the spiritual power required to maintain his hollow form.

Ouch.
♀*La Muerte Chiquita*♀la_kalaka on December 25th, 2009 09:50 am (UTC)
Hisagi has got the worst part hre for sure. If the explosion of Tousen's body was due to Kazeshini's power. Oh dear, he is going to need therapy for sure O.o
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♛ KKdaGreen: Shinjikk2k5 on December 25th, 2009 12:49 pm (UTC)
that page 19 really killed me too! poor Hisagi and Tousen. i feel so bad for Tousen, Hisagi and Komamura :(
once again, Aizen didn't have to do that (like he did with Halibel!! ><) i hate him for that. and this just makes me hate Aizen worse!!!
poor Tousen, his REAL life has just begun. TT___TT i feel sorry for Tousen he made a wrong decision folling Aizen.
Hisagi's face at page 19 killed me too :(
too much for this chapter Y_Y
but too little for Shinji - Aizen fight! >
♛ KKdaGreen: Shinjikk2k5 on December 25th, 2009 01:00 pm (UTC)
really can't wait to watch Aizen's ass got kicked!

about page 19, it was really confusing me though. i take it as that blood splashing from Tousen's body was caused by Aizen's attack, no?
andrew_jpandrew_jp on December 25th, 2009 02:10 pm (UTC)
Nice to see Aizen look a bit vulnerable for the first time. Of course, he godmodes his way back to appearing omnipotent soon enough, but I think it bodes well for his fight with Ichigo.

Is it just me, or is Gin totally screwed? Aizen will be focusing all his attention on Ichigo, so Captain Asshole will have to deal with most of the active good guys by himself: that's Hachi, Lisa, Love, Rose, Shinji, Hitsugaya, Oomaeda, Shunsui, maybe Komamura and Hisagi, Unohana if she decides to fight, and Yama-jii. He can't beat those odds himself even if he Hollowfies. Gin had better pray that Wonderweiss beats Kensei and bails him out.
n a o k o || want your rad bromance: Uryuu- I AM A DORKnendo_chan on December 25th, 2009 02:46 pm (UTC)
Part of me wants to say that's the point- Aizen is so confident in his godmoding abilities, he kills off all his allies and subsequently is overwhelmed. Then there's the theory that Gin will kill Aizen at the last second and end the war himself, for himself. In other words, he turns out to not be on anyone's side or something. xD However, Aizen could possibly have one last trick up his sleeve, though at this point, I sort of doubt it. Surprise us, Kubo!
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_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on December 25th, 2009 02:48 pm (UTC)
A chapter for Xmas! Thanks for posting Alex! Okay, I've been spoiled but I'm going to make comments as I read the HQ...

Oh LORD, those eyeballs gave me nightmares in b/w... why in the name of all that's holy did Kubo-sensei have to make them ORANGE? What did Christmas ever do to you, Kubo, that you have to give us Szayel grossness and now icky eyeballs for this holiday?

OH THE SPREAD! I WAS DYING FOR THE HQ! I wanted to see Chad and Ishida as the priests! LOL, look at Ishida with his hands on his hips like he's impatient. I wanted to see the pattern on Rukia's sash--BUTTERFLIES. I love this spread except that those snowflakes seem AWFULLY GIGANTIC and almost menacing to me. It's a beautiful nakama spread and someone always has to be tiny but I'm glad that even though it's Ishida's turn, Orihime got foreground this time!
SHE'S SO PRETTY. ORIHIME & FOOD, OTP!

Not a couples spread like people are saying--not even IchiOri and RenRuki like the one with Renji and Ruki toting guns and Ichi and Ori wearing white of few years back (the infamous gay Ichigo in ballet slippers and Michael Jackson spread). Orihime's flower pin (hibiscus) is repeated in the pattern on Ichigo's shawl but without the stamen ... WHITE SNAKE! There's a Chinese legend about a white snake but I noted this in the spoiler thread:

from here: http://www.yamabushiantiques.com/ANDY%20Collection/SymbolicMeaningandEmotioninJapaneseEthnozoology.pdf

White snakes in Japanese folktales represent creatures detested by humans that must
undergo plight or exile before they are accepted (Yanagita, 1948)!


Pairing-wise, I don't see the WEDDING some people are seeing, LOL. Ichigo are Rukia are coupled in that they aren't wearing coats over their kimono but Renji and Orihime are wearing matching fur coats... so RENORI, ANYONE?

Moving on...

OH THANK YOU SHINJI FOR BEING SO DAMN CUTE AND PLAYING WITH AIZEN'S MIND FOR JUST A LITTLE BIT AND MAKING HIM GO o__o.

So Aizen... you were at the root of Kaname's gf's abusive husband's not getting his death sentence... looky at you there in your little glasses... what were you up to, you smartypants omniscient sexy villian?

The telephone poles all broken and nodding toward one another as Koma talks about crossing blades... people say Kubo wastes panels but geez people, just read them more closely.

Oh Koma! Oh Tousen! Oh Hisagi! Hisagi is going to need so much therapy.... I haven't wanted
more intensive counseling for anyone in Bleach since Kira.... this time... wow, this rivals Ichigo the little boy lying under his bleeding to death mom in the rain.

Shounen!last panel!Ichigo!

Next chapter will be all talk but this chapter was wonderful. What a way to end the year. Now I'm going to go read it again. Thank you, Kubo-sensei.


Edited at 2009-12-25 02:49 pm (UTC)
n a o k o || want your rad bromance: Orihime- Derp!nendo_chan on December 25th, 2009 02:56 pm (UTC)
FFF, I ship RenHime. xD
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n a o k o || want your rad bromance: Uryuu- I AM A DORKnendo_chan on December 25th, 2009 02:57 pm (UTC)
Woah, wtf? My comment showed up weirdly.
Is anyone else utterly psyched to see Shinji's Shikai in the games? Best one to play as, worst one to play against. xD

On a more serious note... Damn, Aizen, you're running low on allies. It's just him, Gin, maybe Wonderweiss, and Yammy back in HM, who really is just smushing stuff at this point. -_- I suspect his hubris will be his downfall, in the classic style of deities and rulers- but not by Ichigo, please. Yes, it's confirmed that they'll fight, but I think Unohana misjudged Ichigo not having seen Aizen's Shikai- they fought atop Soukyoku hill, and think how easy it would have been for Aizen to nab him there. Hell, maybe he was already in Shikai- we've never actually seen Kyokua Suigetsu's released form, just the start of him releasing it. For all we know, it looks exactly the same. It's certainly ironic enough... Quite frankly, I still cling to Orihime or one of the Karakura daddies finishing the job. God versus one who can surpass him? So much more epic than God versus Overpowered Shounen Hero-Boy. Let's give Ichigo a rest so Rukia can subtextily kick the snot out of him afterwords or something and get closure on some other characters!

And then can has my Ryuuken/Lisa fanservice?

Ahem... I also want some closure on The Chad- poor boy's hardly done anything! This upcoming year is the Year of the Tiger (the tora in Yasutora), and maybe this year, Kubo will actually do something with it. Yeah so I wanted Ilforte to come back to life or something for the Year of the Bull. Obscure character!fangirl can dream...

Also, Shuuhei needs a hug. D:

Edited at 2009-12-25 02:57 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous) on December 25th, 2009 05:54 pm (UTC)
Re: Woah, wtf? My comment showed up weirdly.
Does Yammy even count at this point? Kubo is totally ignoring him right now.
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 syx: samuraidarksyx on December 25th, 2009 04:44 pm (UTC)
Now, I'm remembering why I love Bleach. Even I felt pity for Tôsen in this chapter.

The only thing I didn't like: Shinji, don't explain and cut, what a way of loosing surprise factor.
(Anonymous) on December 25th, 2009 06:07 pm (UTC)
Why did Shinji actually explain to Aizen his Keyblade Zanpakto's effects on the opponent letter by letter? Why are action heros prone to this?

And Hisagi~ he looked like he was going to burst out crying. Poor guys. And Dickhead... man, he's deep. I'm feeling a bit ashamed to have called him that for the past few weeks. Ok, he was an asshole, but he didn't deserve that death. AIZEN BETTER DIE A SLOW DEATH.

And Ichigo? Yawn. Bring us back Hollow!puppy. Far more intresting character than this guy. Looks like Captain Mum healed his wounds. Let's see how useless that would prove to be against Naraku version 2.5. Plotkai included, of course.
(Anonymous) on December 25th, 2009 07:28 pm (UTC)
To be fair, the villains do it, too, and are actually much more prone to it.

Zommari and SzayelApporo explaining their techniques down to the letter proved to be their undoing, for instance.

The ACTUAL reason why shonen heroes/villains do this has nothing to do with in universe logic, but rather it's just a tool for the author to fit in exposition the audience needs to follow the action.

Either the characters fighting will explain their techniques to one another, have internal monologues about them, or a character watching from the sideline will comment on it, and in doing so clue the audience in to how their attacks work. Kubo prefers the fore-most.

He does mix it up on occasion though, with Starrk being the most prominent example. Rather than having most of the attacks the shinigami used explained to him, he saw through them himself and explained what he observed to the audience.
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Wintaerwintaerland on December 25th, 2009 06:43 pm (UTC)
I seriously hate it that Shinji kept explaining his zanpakutou's ability as he attacked Aizen. The guy is smart, he didn't get this far just because of his illusions! I get that this is Kubo's way of letting the readers know what Shinji's abilities are, but seriously? Couldn't he have done this after Shinji scored a few more hits? *sigh* I do like the two panels of surprised!Aizen though so I shall content myself with that...

Tousen, I still don't like, though there might have been a chance of that changing had he lived, but hey, he didn't and I don't mind too much. Komamura and Hisagi though... I want to hug Komamura and pet him and tell him not to feel empty, and as for Hisagi, all I can say is: ouch...

Oh look, it's Ichigo in all his fully clothed glory! I'm more interested in Unohana being behind him and healing Hiyori because that girl has been cut in half here! Hopefully Hachi's managed to patch her back together a bit.

I want more Shinji vs. Aizen! I refuse to believe that's all there is to Shinji's sword and the circle at the end of it is very intriguing
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on December 25th, 2009 06:47 pm (UTC)


I know. I think a lot of people were a little bummed to see the shounen hero and wanted more Shinji. Oh Ichigo--how far you have fallen!

Maybe Shinji will do something cool or Gin will next chapter!
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(Anonymous) on December 25th, 2009 07:51 pm (UTC)
As good as a chapter without any arrancar can get, really!

I don't have any profound insights to offer on the Aizen versus Shinji scenes, since I'm not especially interested in it, but the presentation of it was excellent, and Shinji's ability was very creative.

Ah, Tousen... I know I probably represent less than 0.01% of fandom, but Tousen was always my favorite member of the villainous trio (I'm waiting for their development to judge Gin and Aizen, but both have failed to captivate me of yet,) and was my favorite character in Bleach before the arrancar arc. He had a lot of potential, especially after his betrayal, and I always felt that those who hated him on the basis of his "hypocrisy" were being a little unfair. (The fact that there are good people in S.S. doesn't make the institution itself just, especially since the powers that organize the entire world are veiled in mystery. As such, his betraying Soul Society wasn't necessarily an overt act of hypocrisy, though I understand why some thought so.)

The last few chapters have done a lot with him, and I have to admit I didn't forsee him developing in this way when I was at the peak of my Tousen-fanboyhood three and a half years ago (which hurts my pride a little... I was so accurate with Ulquiorra...) It was hard to follow his frame of mind, and it seemed that Kubo wanted to depict him as a monster born of noble intentions. I was saddened, but I could accept and appreciate him being that kind of character.

This chapter undoes a lot of what came before it, and it seems abrupt, but really it just invokes one of the most tride and true storytelling elements of shonen: communicating with your fists. It made his death scene more fitting to show that in the end Komamura and Shuuhei were able to reach their friend and mentor after all, and he got to die as himself, freed from the swollen mass of hatred that consumed him.

As to how he died, I rather predict that Aizen had some sort of self destruct mechanism installed in his underlings. Sounds like his type of act.

Rest in peace, Tousen... Not ALL of fandom considered you the scrappy.
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on December 25th, 2009 10:22 pm (UTC)

OH HEY BALLAD! <3

it seemed that Kubo wanted to depict him as a monster born of noble intentions

This is fascinating because I was JUST YESTERDAY writing Kubo-sensei about the parallel between Ulquiorra and Tousen. The way they came to their redemptive moments before their deaths was eerily the same, although as you say, Tousen became a monster born of noble intentions and Ulquiorra became a noble being (rescuing Ishida in his last moments) born of a monstrosity.

I can see why you fanboyed both. Complicated villains are delish.
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scorpio8116scorpio8116 on December 26th, 2009 12:34 am (UTC)
I, for one, am glad that Tousen didn't draw his last breath as an overgrown, disgusting insect. Weirdly enough, I've always been a bit of a Tousen fangirl and I was a bit annoyed when they revealed him to just be some sort of monster past redemption. I'm grateful that Kubo gave him at least a bit of reconciliation between them... only to be interrupted by SPONTANEOUS COMBUSTION. Srsly, that came out of nowhere, but I guess I can safely assume it was Aizen's fault.

And whoo, surprised!Aizen. Never thought I'd see it before the end of this decade...
Kylarakarenai on December 26th, 2009 02:50 am (UTC)
"Did you horribly murder your wife and fellow shinigami in a case of domestic violence? Hmm, I guess a slap on the wrist is sufficient."

Well, shit, no WONDER Tousen was mad. And along those same lines, why weren't more people genuinely weirded out by Rukia's execution? Murdering your WIFE isn't enough to get you a serious punishment, but it's totally legit to incinerate someone's soul for an easily reversible power transfer? >_> Oh, SS.

There's a big theme of hearts going on... I really want to see where Kubo wants to go with this, because he just keeps returning to it again and again, and every circumstance is a little different. <3

Aww, Shuuhei, Koma-chan, I'm really sorry Tousen blew up all over you. D:
(Anonymous) on December 26th, 2009 11:55 am (UTC)
Aww, Shuuhei, Koma-chan, I'm really sorry Tousen blew up all over you. D:

Ewwwww.
Amandaabarai4 on December 27th, 2009 03:16 pm (UTC)
SHINJI, YOU!

ARGH, I wanted too see him kick the crap out of Aizen at least a little bit! I hope he is not done already...