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24 December 2009 @ 09:11 pm
Tousen, Ichigo and Transformations: A few random musings  
Just some ideas to tide everyone over while Kubo-sensei's bosses torture us over the Christmas/New Year break.

1: Ichigo's transformation into The Beast and Tousen's transformation into The Fly are not the same thing. Prior to his transformation Tousen invokes the name of his Zanpaktou and then some unknown Spanish phrase (anyone got a translation of that btw?) www.onemanga.com/Bleach/385/18/ and when the transformation is complete his sword is nowhere to be seen. (
www.onemanga.com/Bleach/386/02/) On the other hand Ichigo as The Beast wields Tensa Zangetsu to great effect (www.onemanga.com/Bleach/352/11/) This seems a pretty fundamental difference. Just no idea what it means yet.

2: Tousen's mask is... odd compared to every other Vizard we've ever seen. Ichigo, Shinji and the rest of the Vizard have simple face masks, maybe with a bit arching over to cover the crown of the head. Tousen's on the other hand covers his head pretty completely, leaving only his lower jaw and mouth free, something none of the Vizard masks do. Is this difference of design simply to allow Tousen to still visibly emote with his eyes covered or is something significant?

Just some thoughts to tide everyone over until we get more new Bleach.

Happy Holidays.
Current Mood: impatient
oh gallant piglet,: HICHIROARaizome on December 24th, 2009 11:20 am (UTC)
Glad to see this distinction pointed out. IMO (at least by appearance) Tousen didn't even fully qualify as a Vaizard; his "resurrection" was almost entirely Hollow/Arrancar. Whether or not this means something, I don't know. But he sure didn't seem even remotely on the same level as Love, Rose, or (obviously) Ichigo.

Happy Holidays to you too! The wait for the next batch of chapters is going to be something else. :D

ETA: Bleach Asylum has photos of the raw of the next chapter up now. I'm all WTF and ZOMG.

Edited at 2009-12-24 11:33 am (UTC)
Vayshtivayshti on December 24th, 2009 12:16 pm (UTC)
When the Vizards come up against Aizen, he says they're incomplete, or something to that effect.

There's the suggestion that because the Vizards are the results of experiments, that they are not the end point... Tousen was the one who benefited from the research, and is at a higher level of transformation or some such.
Running on Coffee and Schadenfreudearcadiasilver on December 24th, 2009 01:34 pm (UTC)
Your icon never ceases to make me snort. XD

But, I think, in the end, the fact that the Vaizard are incomplete is a saving grace. Tousen was clearly off his rocker at the end there, more a beast than a shinigami, lost to the hollow in his soul. Maybe their "incompleteness" is what keeps them from potentially going off the deep end. This could also mean bad things for Ichigo.
Vayshti: bleachvayshti on December 24th, 2009 02:46 pm (UTC)
I love my Mister Walken icon a little too much ;). Here, have something a little more appropriate for bleachness.

I like this line of reasoning - although, I wonder if we've really seen the Vizard beasts yet - Tousen had two levels of transformation, and we've only seen one for most of the Vizards. Regardless, I still think Ichibeast is a bad omen.

One thing that troubles me about that chapter - Tousen and his whole "I can see!" spiel. It was something that looks wonderfully poignant, he's finally got his sight (until he was a total cock about it), but - it's a bit weird that he's waited until now to release his form for the first time. Surely he would have tested it out, and found out he could see, before rushing into battle?
Avelera: Fight like a Girlathena799 on December 24th, 2009 05:53 pm (UTC)
You have a point, but I think that we just have to go with intended dramatic effect. It wouldn't be quite as dramatic if Tousen was like, "Ah, I love going into this form 'cause I can see." its more dramatic for us to learn at the same time that he does.

Still, an interesting point.
katt_08katt_08 on December 25th, 2009 02:57 am (UTC)
HI ! Happy holydays "Resureccion" it means "Resurrection" acording to the webters diccionary
Main Entry: res·ur·rec·tion
Pronunciation: \ˌre-zə-ˈrek-shən\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English resurreccioun, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin resurrection-, resurrectio act of rising from the dead, from resurgere to rise from the dead, from Latin, to rise again, from re- + surgere to rise — more at surge
Hope it help
(Anonymous) on December 25th, 2009 11:35 pm (UTC)
Grillar Grillo
I think the person was asking what "Grillar grillo" meant, not resureccion. grillar means "to chirp, squeak" (probably referring to the chirping of Tousen's bug thingy) and grillo means "cricket, insect". So I'm guessing "Grillar Grillo" means "Chirping Cricket" which Tousen pretty much transformed into.