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16 December 2009 @ 08:24 pm
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Mostly a flashback concerning Kouga and how he rebelled against Soul Society

So basically, I called it after last week's episode. Kouga is a Kuchiki, though he married into the family rather than being born into it. And I spent a lot of the episode thinking that a lot of problems in Soul Society could be avoided if the Kuchiki could just learn to communicate. Seriously, if Ginrei had just been a bit more straight forward in telling Kouga what he felt and what he was doing things probably would have turned out a lot better.

Though I does seem odd to use Ginrei since he was around until Turn Back the Pendulum arc and this is set before Ukitake and Kyouraku became Captains which was nearly 2000 years previous.

Edit: Fixed broken cut
the cosplayin' cat ladymochavalentino on December 16th, 2009 11:20 am (UTC)
Another case of Seireitei's crappy punishments =/

I'm curious to know who the mysterious woman is. Byakuya's mother perhaps? I saw some speculation about her being a "great aunt" or something, but I don't think they would have gone through the trouble of keeping her in the shadows in that was the case.

I also want to know who came up with the design for Kouga's hair...
blackmarquise: byakushiblackmarquise on December 16th, 2009 11:26 am (UTC)
those kuchiki... *sigh*
the scene when Kouga tell Ginrei that he has been made captain of squad is painfully simmilar to one when Rukia also tall something to Byakuya.
Both Byakuya and Ginrei don't face them, and I sus^pect that it was the same room...
Anyway, tha ep had a lot of informations:
1- kouga 's red scraf is apparently the one you wear when you married an heires of the kuchiki clan are you listenning Ichigo, that's your future scarf

2-the gotei 13 already sucked , severel millenia ago

3-Muramasa is totally in love with Kouga.

4-Kouga lost his prettiness (poor baby)

Now, I hope they don't tell us something, like the woman in the dark is actually Byakuya's mother, if Kouga is revealed to be Byakuya's father I may kill someone....

I actually saw the whole Kouga-stabbing-Muramasa part coming.
I think he spent all those years, realizing that muramasa was controlling him, so he want to tke the power back or something. HOwever, I still think that Kouga will attempt a revenge against the seireitei, since he was unjustly framed
(Anonymous) on December 16th, 2009 03:10 pm (UTC)
"1- kouga 's red scraf is apparently the one you wear when you married an heires of the kuchiki clan are you listenning Ichigo, that's your future scarf"

hell no! red and orange don't suit! keep that scarf far far away from my strawberry boy's hair!
Avelera: Fight like a Girlathena799 on December 16th, 2009 07:05 pm (UTC)
But Ichigo already has that little red stripe when he's no in bankai-mode.
qwirky on December 16th, 2009 11:43 pm (UTC)
This glorious picture very much disagrees with you:

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(Anonymous) on December 17th, 2009 10:42 am (UTC)
Clap your hands, say yeah! THIS picture illustrates exactly what I want to say.
Red and orange are two bright, strong and warm colors; their juxtaposition creates a clash.
It goes well for Ishida and Kuchiki (good contrast with dark hair) but it doesn't look really good on Ichi and Ren - if possible, it's even worse for Ren :/
Warm colors need complementary colors like green or blue.
So definitely, no. Don't like Ichi in red. But hey YMMV, it's a matter of taste ;)

About the red when Ichi is in bankai, the color is inside his black shihakusho so it doesn't clash with his hair.
Bana: your cold (blue). touchvitiates on December 16th, 2009 04:06 pm (UTC)
Your points are amazing. I especially like 1 and 4. (Am I the only person who thinks the red scarf is prettier than the white scarf?) Kouga turned ugly. :'( Poor child.

I feel a bit bad for Muramasa. D: And oh my god, seriously. Slash to the extreme with him and Kouga. >___>
blackmarquise: byakushiblackmarquise on December 16th, 2009 04:20 pm (UTC)
oh thank you!!! ^.^
personnaly, I still like the white scarf, but only because I think it suit Byakuya's better! I don't think that the red is his colour at all
qwirky on December 16th, 2009 11:40 pm (UTC)
kouga 's red scraf is apparently the one you wear when you married an heires of the kuchiki clan are you listenning Ichigo, that's your future scarf

*wants fanarts of this NOW*
aeri: kurosaki ichigoiluxe_love on December 17th, 2009 01:04 am (UTC)
qwirky on December 17th, 2009 03:03 am (UTC)
Though now that I think about it, only the Kuchiki clan heads wear the scarf Byakuya currently has, right? So maybe all other Kuchiki males wear red, not just guys who marry into the family.


Muramasa is totally in love with Kouga.
He called Kouga "beautiful," apparently. *weirded out*
r0ck3tsci3ntist - sorry, kiddingr0ck3tsci3ntist on December 16th, 2009 02:28 pm (UTC)
I like the premiss of this arc a lot. It has tons of potential but most of it will never be realized. Anyway, it's quite good for a filler arc.

Kouga could be Bya's father and the shadowy woman his mother, though I guess it would be too long ago if Shun and Ukitake aren't even on the scene yet. But then Genrei should be a lot younger too, right? Oh well. Maybe Shun and Jyuu are out on patrol or something.
Avelera: Fight like a Girlathena799 on December 16th, 2009 07:07 pm (UTC)
Well they'll probably have to do another filler arc at some point with the rate the manga is going, perhaps they will do 2 seasons of Kouga stuff? It seems too good a storyline to give less time than the Bounts had.
karkashan: EthicalTreatmentkarkashan on December 16th, 2009 05:22 pm (UTC)
Actually, Ukitake and Kyouraku were among the first students of the Academy 1000 years ago, and I kind of doubt that they would become Captains immediatly. (Heck, if it's Kubo-approved, it could turn out that Kouga is Byakuya's father, although I sincerely doubt it)
kohi_no_torakohi_no_tora on December 16th, 2009 10:04 pm (UTC)
2000 years ago was when the Academy was founded. And since Ukitake and Kyouraku didn't even know about the events that led up to this its safe to assume its before they even entered the Academy.
karkashan: Daddywillhurtthemkarkashan on December 16th, 2009 10:59 pm (UTC)
They didn't know about Kouga rebelling near the end of a Shinigami Civil War. It's feasible they could have been out on assignment, or were too caught up with reconstruction and the rehabilitation of Soul Society. (It's possible they could have been Captains at the time, but because of the Civil War they couldn't get back into Soul Society/were worried about punishing traitors/hunting hollows/etc.)
Avelera: Fight like a Girlathena799 on December 16th, 2009 07:04 pm (UTC)
Didn't Kyoraku specifically state that he, Yama, Ukitake, and Unohana were the only captains who had lasted more than a century? So therefore, Ginrei couldn't have been a captain centuries ago?

Ah well, it was a pretty epic storyline. I felt awful for Kouga, but based on the earlier episodes I kept expecting him to actually lead the rebellion in some way, not just get caught in the crossfire. The fact that he stabbed Muramasa is pretty badass, I wonder if there's any hope of him being rehabilitated? And, y'know, given something to eat ~_^
jb_iiijb_iii on December 18th, 2009 02:40 am (UTC)
I fank-wank it like this. Ginrei was one of the original captains (prior to the Academy) but retired after Kouga's rebellion to take care of Kuchiki family business - maybe so Byakuya's father could take over the 6th and then when Bya's dad died (since he doesn't seem to be around during the TBTP arc) Ginrei took back the captain-ship on Yama-ji's request (shades of the 3rd Hokage). At least that's how I'll read it till told otherwise.
Styx667styx_uchiha on December 16th, 2009 07:46 pm (UTC)
I love Kyouga XD Everything about him is so Roman, his scarf, his haircut, his inner world, his strong and confident caracter *_* Even his pendant looks like an eagle XD ; it's as if he just jumped from a sword and sandals movie to the Edo Era XD I love him and I look forward to the next ep ; I can't wait for the resolution of his conflict with Muramasa. That's such a sad relationship they have, Muramasa loves Kyouga yet he can't bring himself to care about his feelings, does whatever he thinks is best, and ends up making him suffer T_T.
One thing has been bothering me though ; I can withstand Ukitake and Kyoraku not being here yet, but Ginrei and Yamamoto looking not even one year younger ?
(Also why Kyouga's red hair part is the only one which grew up ? ê_e)
Kylarakarenai on December 16th, 2009 07:48 pm (UTC)
//I can withstand Ukitake and Kyoraku not being here yet, but Ginrei and Yamamoto looking not even one year younger ?//


In other words, they reached their peak long, long ago, and have since remained the same. *nods* XD XD XD

Edited at 2009-12-16 07:49 pm (UTC)
Styx667styx_uchiha on December 16th, 2009 07:53 pm (UTC)
I forgot awesomeness doesn't age XD
Biodamper: byakuyabiodamper on December 16th, 2009 09:59 pm (UTC)
Urggg, great episode, i was dead-wrong when i thought Kouga was an ugly shinigami when i saw him in the last episode :D

I really feel sorry for Muramasa now, losing his master for several hundred years, only to be litteraly stabbed in the back by him upon reunion...Someone mentioned on another thread that in the trailer for next time Muramasa looks like a kicked puppy :'(