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24 November 2009 @ 11:13 pm
Oy fandom  
Oy fandom. If I really wanted to exploit my ever-growing POWAH in the land where people shoot the shit about cartoons (this girl appreciates but knows too well the cosmic significance of a humble el-jay community that is pushing a mere thousand members of Bleachtards), I could tell you guys a backstage story or two, gossip more than a little bit, hang some dirty laundry on my clothesline, but honest-to-Kubo, I'd really rather talk about the actual Bleach manga than about petty goings-on in fandom---as entertaining as these fan goings-on can be. (Wanna read a fun gossipy LJ fan journal? PM me!) I did, however, really want to make an entry tonight that made some clucking noises of disapproval (I've been in fandom too long now to make loud, venting, about-to-explode noises of distress) over some fandom brats at Bleach Asylum who took offense at my signature--because said signature linked to this community.

Yeah ... well, long story short, it does seem that links to certain essays in bleachness were reported to moderators of BA. I was going to start writing my tsk tsk entry but then I read Jenni's blog entry for today and found that she'd said everything better than I could. (I'm so happy for my lawyer and law student friends. If I ever get into any trouble with the MAN one day, I'll have all sorts of eloquent people stepping up to my defense). Anyway, I'm still more than a little amused that the same people who reported my sig that had a direct link to this analysis of Bleach in it by a horrible horrible IchiRuki shipper either did or did notice the direct link to this essay by a wicked wicked IchiOri shipper in it. Or maybe the entire scope of the comments and shipping controversy in general--or maybe the big words?--were just too much that the tattletales felt strongly enough that the delicate members of BA should be protected from accidentally clicking on such links and being exposed to the confusion and horror and wickedness that is this live journal community of bleach fans. O__O

Saints preserve us.

And may Santen Kesshun shield us all.
 
 
 
kari_izumi: eh?kari_izumi on November 25th, 2009 05:41 am (UTC)
Damn, that's fucking stupid. I'd be lying if I said I've never shaken my head at some of the ideas I've come across in fandom, but I've seen this whole "banning links" think play out at other boards before. It didn't work the last five times I've seen it, and it doesn't work now.

I absolutely hate censorship. Personal responsibility, anyone?
Grenat: virgoescarboucle on November 25th, 2009 10:34 am (UTC)
It's the first time I've seen it, and I work as a mod in BF for years - the most we ban as links are links to sites with hentai and such things. I don't think it's a good idea, but meh, that's not my forum.
oh gallant piglet,: desk-onaizome on November 25th, 2009 06:02 am (UTC)
Eh. No idea what to say/think/feel/etc. Fandom = SRS BZNS.

Though I admit a little surprise that nobody has flamed me yet for that Grimmjow/Ichigo essay I posted on this comm. All that work I did, and not one intelligent rebuttal... *sigh*

(hey Deb go look at the latest omake screencaps, or better yet: the latest omake itself! Yer gonna love it. XD)
nahlackasexical on November 25th, 2009 06:30 am (UTC)
Dearest debbiechan,

Please refrain from linking us to our own blathering Freudian garbage in your own personal LJ community, so that we wretched speshul snowflakes may not accidentally stumble upon said link and have our delicate sensibilities so mortally offended and our peace-loving souls so deeply disturbed.

While it indeed holds true that not all interpretations are created equal, we have, in our infinitely vague, psuedo-psychoanalytical, madonna-whore complex, borderline incestuous, and increasingly non-sequitur wisdom, subverted said notion.

Heretofore, our interpretations are not only as valid as your own, but made even more so by our utter lack of both authorial and textual support. For we have anime fillers on our side, and this in fact trumps all canon - formerly-heartless hollows, bespectacled knights in shining armor, and rays of light need not apply.

Sincerely yours,
The One and Only Laughing Stock of Fandom
a.k.a. Canon Since the (Rejected) Pilot but Forever in Our Western-Orientated Dreams
annie_08: cuteannie_08 on November 25th, 2009 06:37 am (UTC)
ROLF Oh you win XD
(no subject) - fikuz on November 25th, 2009 08:51 am (UTC) (Expand)
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Kylara: crobat =_=karenai on November 25th, 2009 09:13 am (UTC)
Censorship* is the refuge of cowards. It is also the refuge of people with no argumentative ground to stand on. (The two are not mutually exclusive.) In my view, censorship is an automatic forfeit of a debate - it is the equivalent of saying, "I have no intelligent response to say to you, so I shall hide you from the world in hopes that the world will not know how foolish I am." But no, that's not how life works - the world knows anyway.

Hey, People Trying To Delete My Essay From Existence! This is exactly how this exchange came off to me, okay?

People Trying To Delete My Essay From Existence: SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP LALALALALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOUUUU IF NO ONE ELSE HEARS YOU EITHER DID THE TREE FALL IN THE FOREST NUH-UH WAAAAAHHHH

Yep. Thanks for the forfeit, People Trying to Delete My Essay From Existence.


*Note: I know I'm not using it in the legal sense, and not as if practiced by a government. This is more "trying to get rid of text we can't stand to read".

Edited at 2009-11-25 10:01 am (UTC)
peca_06peca_06 on November 25th, 2009 07:16 pm (UTC)
*hugs*
Sorry you were the target of "shitforbrains", feeble mind, self-righteous, holier than thou, people that can't take anything that derives or forks from their own ideas. I wish I had the pleasure to have read it before it got deleted o_O. I was also attacked by such cowards and had a lot of my drawings deleted as a result, because there were some that didn't like what they saw EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE ALL PROPERLY LABELED AND FULL OF WARNINGS. I would've liked to have at least a way to defend myself and face this idiots in a debate, but they just throw the rock and hide. I AM SO SICK OF SHIT LIKE THAT. Censorship is the cancer of self-expression. All they need to do is not click in the link if they can't handle it!
You write many wonderful essays and have very nice and provocative ideas that incite and provoke deep thought. I love reading what you have to say. Don't let this crap get to you hon *hugs*.
Re: *hugs* - karenai on November 25th, 2009 07:50 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Manjamoonlightspirit on November 25th, 2009 11:08 am (UTC)
omg lol oO? geez making a fuss about a link in a sig that no-one is forced to click on? I mean, it may be just me but thats a really petty thing...just dont click on it and that is and if you land on a site were you dont like the content then just close the site again. Thats kinda ridiculous...
Some people seem to have a lot of time at their hands to do stuff like that <.<'
mezzo_marinaiomezzo_marinaio on November 25th, 2009 12:24 pm (UTC)
the tattletales felt strongly enough that the delicate members of BA should be protected from accidentally clicking on such links and being exposed to the confusion and horror and wickedness that is this live journal community of bleach fans.

...uuh.

In other news, girls will now be banned from wearing miniskirts in public. God knows poor, impressionable men have no self-control of their own - and we wouldn't want them to get confused and emotional at this display of wickedness and offensive behaviour.

That goes for tiny loinclothes too. Sorry, Yammi and Charlotte Coolhorn. *grins*
The Main Gauche of Enlightenmentvelvetsword on November 25th, 2009 12:41 pm (UTC)
Bleachness induced me to rape like 50 guys.

No, seriously. I clicked on the 'Lust Arc' essay by Kylara and all my innocence was stripped from me. I thereby immediately left the house in a frothing, boiling rage and raped like 50 dudes on the way to watch football at Applebees like the depraved sinner I am. If only I hadn't clicked those links--! If only the mods on Bleach Asylum had done something to preserve me in my hour of need!

REPENT, DEBBIE. FOR YOURS ARE THE LINKS OF A LOST MAIDENHOOD BLIGHTED.
Kylarakarenai on November 25th, 2009 07:51 pm (UTC)
Too much lust was transferred to you from my essay, I see, I see. So tragic.
(no subject) - la_kalaka on November 26th, 2009 06:21 am (UTC) (Expand)
廚二病: Red is eating his noodles and watchingchuuni on November 25th, 2009 01:20 pm (UTC)
......

YOU MEAN

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH ME ON THE INTERNET?

∑(゜Д ゜)

CALL THE GUARDS!
The Main Gauche of Enlightenmentvelvetsword on November 25th, 2009 01:36 pm (UTC)
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(no subject) - karenai on November 25th, 2009 07:46 pm (UTC) (Expand)
 syx: haruhidarksyx on November 25th, 2009 06:44 pm (UTC)
Even if they report the signature a proper mod should ignore them, the link doesn't go to any indecent site like, I don't know a KomamuraxAizen fanclub (pun totally intended). I don't understand why make a fuss about something so trivial as linking your signature to your LJ community, really.
peca_06peca_06 on November 25th, 2009 06:56 pm (UTC)
Here we go again! *facepalm*. The usual self righteous morons deciding what self-expression and what opinions are right or wrong and f@cking everyone else up, because they chose "the RED PILL" and couldn't deal with it LMAO. Do you live on in ignorance or do you lead what Aristotle called 'the examined life'. They should've stayed in their world of false sensory information and not go down the rabbit hole if they didn't want a reality check XDD. Matrix jokes aside, I don't get who "shit for brains" goes and reports links to the mods like that. If those people don't like it, then don't go in them and even if they do and read it out of curiosity, why not just agree to disagree and not go "THIS HAS TO BE BANNED AND DELETED FROM ANY EYES, EVEN FROM THE ONES THAT ENJOY THIS, THIS HAS TO BE STOPPED" and can go on living with him/herself? It is beyond me. I don't even want to recall the massive deletion of my sexy Ichiruki fan-arts in the DA, for similar reasons and that retarded MOD that hated fan-artists or I don't know what was up his ass. I didn't have the pleasure to read some of those yet and I hope that they are still there for me to do so. I also hope this witch hunts stop and LJ is the last haven for a lot of us to express our opinions or art and I wouldn't want to have any more wonderful essays to be deleted or taken down T___T. It is our loss, just for 3 idiots that can't handle anything outside their fantasy world.
aeri: ichirukiiluxe_love on November 26th, 2009 12:33 am (UTC)
Boy, we're sliding down a really slippery slope if this is really happening over at BA.

This is really stupid. I haven't been on BA for a while so I don't know what's going on but if mods are removing links from people's signatures because the essays that were linked are anti-a-certain-ship, what's next? Banning ANY discussion on other ships even if it's not negative? It's not like karenai's essay was blatantly offensive - it was literary and analytical. Even if you were a IchiOri shipper, if you had some sense you would at least appreciate the effort and the intelligence in that essay.

This seems like such an underhanded move to me. So if you can't argue against it, you should get somebody to remove it completely? Wow. Really mature, guys. Really mature. (I'm glad that we haven't decided to get all those anti-IchiRuki links removed from other people's sigs either. We know they're wrong; why stoop to their level?)

Can't we express our own opinions? Isn't that what forums are about? It's really simple. If you don't like it, don't click on it. It's not like we are out to get other people and brainwash them to be anti-IchiOri. :/

I'm really disappointed to hear this. D:
♀*La Muerte Chiquita*♀la_kalaka on November 26th, 2009 06:27 am (UTC)
Well, this is really... really... oh people I don't have any more to say since you'been saying everything so perfectly.

A link?? remove a link that you clicked in your own free will?

LOL WUT!?

*poins icon she really feels like that*

this is ridiculous, they need to get a life, NOW! URGENT! O_O

Michelle: Displeasedgrrlgamer4ever on November 26th, 2009 07:49 am (UTC)
It's kind of sad that someone felt the need to report you for such a petty thing.

Edited at 2009-11-26 07:49 am (UTC)
kawaiisdreal1: Ulquiorra STFUkawaiisdreal1 on November 26th, 2009 05:44 pm (UTC)
Spoiler tagged sigs are next in line people. -__-
kawaiisdreal1: Ichigo ohshi-kawaiisdreal1 on November 27th, 2009 05:19 am (UTC)
Oh nooooou it did happen!!! Crap!! D:
(no subject) - lackasexical on November 27th, 2009 09:45 pm (UTC) (Expand)