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23 September 2009 @ 03:40 am
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Syn just messaged me that Ohana is in the house and so we have a Japanese spoiler up at BA. And damn, Syn is always scary right about everything--the cover and the color page!

I was sure that the Jump cover at least would be IchiRuki to promote FtB but it's Ichigo, Renji and someone else... and the color spread seems to be a boys spread including Shinji. <3 I'm really looking forward to feasting my eyes on that one. Syn said she was sure the cover and spread wouldn't tie into FtB.

As for the chapter, WAAAAAAAAH, Starrk. I dread reading this chapter. I really do. I remember how I got when Ulqui went down. Oh well, it's the week of atonement in my religion and I'm going to have to forgive Kubo for this one but ... WAAAAAAH!

Grenatescarboucle on September 23rd, 2009 08:54 am (UTC)
Ah, I felt kind of bad for promising you that smut, because deep down, I knew I wouldn't have to write anything XD

And yeah, this chapter is just what I expected, Starrk going down and shift to Harribel.

I can't access BA, but I put the whole thing in BF here: http://bleachforums.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=37656 for those who can read Japanese XD
_debbiechan_: bitches love me by aubreywitch_debbiechan_ on September 23rd, 2009 09:11 am (UTC)

I can get on BA, oddly enough--I'm usually the first to be denied access when it's flooded.


I'll have to think of another bet for you to lose and another excuse for you to write me smut. I just love when you're right, though--because most of the things I want to be true are things you predict...

excapt waaaah, you said Starrk would die and you predicted Aizen offing Harribel.

I'm going to take comfort in your prediction of Ishida getting Orihime. <3

Oh Starrk and Harribel... why, why, why must I love the Espada? T__T Goodbye guys, I loved you all, even pumpkin-dress, all of you. T___T

Oh yeah, Yammi's left.... <.< Well, not for long. ENTER UNOHANA?
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Seakhyata on September 23rd, 2009 09:26 am (UTC)
Transition to Harribel. Check.

No IchiRuki cover or spread. Check.

Harribel being sacrificed for Aizen's plan, ergo all the espada being annihilated. Check.

Seems like I didn't do so bad in the prediction pool this time. And we actually have a semblance of plot. Nice. 8D

Edited at 2009-09-23 09:27 am (UTC)
Grenatescarboucle on September 23rd, 2009 09:33 am (UTC)
Well, technically, Yammy's still alive :D
(no subject) - khyata on September 23rd, 2009 09:35 am (UTC) (Expand)
pony_rocks: pic#84544780pony_rocks on September 23rd, 2009 09:43 am (UTC)
Hmmmmm.... interesting. Poor Starrk, but that's what you get for joining a bad company. :/
Now. I know I am being very tiresome and obnoxious about this, BUT! Where is Ukitake!? :(
Seakhyata on September 23rd, 2009 09:45 am (UTC)
Don't worry, you're not being tiresome or obnoxious. I worry for Ukitake too, and every week I hope and pray to see a mention of him in the spoilers, as well. ;_____;
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annie_08: LOLZannie_08 on September 23rd, 2009 10:04 am (UTC)
That's not Starrk in the color page but Yumi. i don't care about Starrk but I can't imagine him looking so gay like that ~_~

Not surprised by the lack of IchiRuki spread/cover. we knew it. But the chapter sounds interesting. I hope this mean the plot will finally arrive :elmo
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on September 23rd, 2009 12:18 pm (UTC)

Awww, Syn just sent me the pic (after I went back to bed and woke up). YUMI IS PRETTIFUL but I'm disappointed...

I was hoping that the inclusion of Starrk in a friends spread meant his eventual inclusion among them but...

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH *cries again for Starrk*
Seakhyata on September 23rd, 2009 10:11 am (UTC)
I apologize Debbie, for spamming this thread but I have to do this.

This is for all the braying of "KUBO IS THE WORSTEST MANGAKA TROLL EVARRR WAAAA", which will inevitably go down with this chapter.

*grabs popcorn in anticipation* 8D
Grenatescarboucle on September 23rd, 2009 10:20 am (UTC)
It's already beginning :elmo
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mikados on September 23rd, 2009 10:13 am (UTC)
I can't believe this is goodbye to Starrk and Lilynette, I'll miss them T___T Harribel is cut down by Aizen, I hope she's not dead yet D:

Only possitive thing is the plot is finaly moving! Aizen, Gin and Tousen are taking action! I feels like centuries ago they stepped into Fake Karakura Town.

OH! And that color spread! Want. It. Now!
Cassiemizukagami on September 23rd, 2009 01:02 pm (UTC)
Ugh, I can't wait for the color spread! I'm so excited!

And sorry to be off topic but where did you get that pic of Hisagi? I want ;.; it's so pretty!
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(Anonymous) on September 23rd, 2009 11:29 am (UTC)
I'll be happy to bring some of the fanwank these spoilers bring to the internet to bleachness!

*clears throat*

I find it funny that so many people are celebrating these spoilers as the return of "plot." None seem to mind that with this twist, coupled with Orihime's kidnapping being a feint, and not one single bit of significant damage being done to the Soul Society, the entire HM arc was a filler story with no bearing on anything. Kubo should have just had Gin, Tousen, and Aizen fight the group of shinigami that confronted them on Sokyouku hill, for all the meaningful developments to happen since.
_debbiechan_: bitches love me by aubreywitch_debbiechan_ on September 23rd, 2009 02:14 pm (UTC)

*hugs the memories of all the Espada close and pats her copy of The Meaning of Meaning*

They meant something.

The Espada were there to show us how not very far away from them humans and Shinigami and Visored are.

Bleach is a character-driven story. I thank Kubo-sensei for these characters. I'm excited about a plot shift as much as anyone else--going back to the dome, seeing my baby Gin in action at last but but but

*takes off hat for the Espada*

I loved them.
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ruinin fuckin' everything: marie - happyallelujah on September 23rd, 2009 11:38 am (UTC)
Swear to God every Espada who got killed by a shinigami better be reincarnated or sent to soul society. SWEAR TO GOD MAN. SWEAR TO GOD. I didn't even get the best end I wanted from Starrk. We'll see how the chapter comes out literally though.
incandescensincandescens on September 23rd, 2009 12:10 pm (UTC)

This would seem to fit the earlier theory of "Aizen is getting his pool of energy to create the key from killing off the Espada, who are naturally huge piles of spiritual energy due to having eaten their way up to their current position".

By (a) splitting the Captains up, (b) having the Espada fight them, he has managed to (c) get a big energy release from the killed Espada, (d) hopefully kill or damage most of the Gotei 13 Captains who might otherwise get in the way.

(I can't really blame the Gotei 13, though: presumably if Aizen had just waltzed into Karakura and everything had been normal, he would have been quite happy to chew it up and use it to create the Key, without having to use up his Espada in the process.)

Of course, the Vizards have mucked things up by arriving and reducing the amount of damage done to the Gotei 13. But previous evidence suggests that they are all vulnerable to Aizen's zanpakutou (given how he staged his alibi during the TBTP arc) -- and whose side are they ultimately on, anyhow?
Kylarakarenai on September 23rd, 2009 04:00 pm (UTC)
I agree with this.
Shinigami_Luciashinigami_lucia on September 23rd, 2009 12:50 pm (UTC)
LOL, I want the cover or color page to have at least an IchiRuki on it, but to be honest, I'm not really surprise that it didn't contain one. Kubo already gave us the love on LIVE TV anyway <333 ..So, it's no big deal XDD ....Besides, I can't wait to see the boy's spread. It sounds yummy! XDDDDDDDD
datenshi_no_tendatenshi_no_ten on September 23rd, 2009 01:12 pm (UTC)
I have a question. If Kyouraku killed Starrk and not Lilynette, does it mean that Starrk can come back if Lilynette was the original hollow?? Of course if Lilynette didn't die along Starrk...

I can't wait to see the cover by the way :D
カルラ (carla): ishida uryuu: quincygirls_are_weird on September 23rd, 2009 01:37 pm (UTC)
ok, let's see...

1. i get some hitsugaya --> +2 for "good."

2. starrk dies --> +2 for "bad." i'm in complete denial over this. starrk was to me what ulquiorra was for the ulquihime crew... ;_________; so yeah, denial, and HARD. >.>

3. halibel goes down without even a fight --> hmmm, this is a tough one. on the one hand i liked halibel so i would've liked for her to go out fighting. on the other hand the idea of aizen just running her through like the evil bastard that he is is just... so damn delicious! x3 yes, we all knew it was going to happen, what with the whole "sacrifice" theme  (she ought to have known he'd pull something like this. she knew what her theme was, after all).  but it doesn't make it any less awesome. so i'm gonna give this one a +1 for "good."

4. PRETTY COLOR SPREAD FEAT. PRETTY BOYS --> +2 for "good." ;)

5. evil cliffhanger of D00M is evil --> +2 for "good." i'm insanely curious as to who aizen's pointing gin and tousen towards. tousen already is in the middle of a fight (oh, my poor, poor shuuhei... ;___; gah), but what about gin? GAH GAH kubo why must you keep me hanging like this?

so GOOD = 7 points and BAD = 2 points. i guess overall the chapter seems good. =3 save for that bit about... wait, nothing happened to starrk. he's alive and kicking, and drinking sake and being lazy like he always was. he didn't die. nu-uh, he didn't. *shakes head emphatically*

anyway, we'll see if this changes when the scanlation comes out.

...and why was everybody so convinced that the color spread would be ichiruki? had kubo hinted at it somehow?
_debbiechan_: bleach_debbiechan_ on September 23rd, 2009 02:07 pm (UTC)

...and why was everybody so convinced that the color spread would be ichiruki? had kubo hinted at it somehow?

Because the FTB DVD is coming out this same week and the promotion for it has been gangbusters--I was sure Jump would've ORDERED Kubo to do a promotional spread!
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maewiemaewie on September 23rd, 2009 01:59 pm (UTC)
You know what i hope for? That the espada will rearise (at least some of them) and take vengeance on Aizen:P Like, Harribel and Starrk being "alive" after Aizen has done his "muhahaha" and gone to RR. Join up with Grimmy and hopefully Ulqui :D

I want them all to be fwiends..naaw^^
pogopogo2468 on September 23rd, 2009 02:02 pm (UTC)
Stark AND Halibel .. DEAD? :'( 'Tis a very sad thing, but we're moving forward now, so I'm happy about that. This also means that we'll be going back to HM soon :3

Interesting. So Stark asks Aizen to join? I wasn't expecting that. I thought it would be Aizen convincing Stark to join, using the idea of him being around strong people as incentive. But this makes sense, as well, since we all know Stark was always looking for friends as strong as him and Gingerback.

LOL, AIZEN LIFTED A FINGER! HAH! That was the first thing I thought of when he cut down Halibel. Afterward, I felt bad for her. But, meh, I never really liked Halibel. She kinda bored me, so I'm not really too disappointed in her death. Although, I was hoping we'd get more depth to her character....

WEEEE, an all boy spread?! Can't complain about that!
_debbiechan_: Aizen cruel but awesome by heterogen_debbiechan_ on September 23rd, 2009 02:10 pm (UTC)

I thought that Harribel's attachment to her fraccion made her a somewhat sympathetic character--and she had this noble coolness. She was seriously attractive in that TOO BEAUTIFUL AND DANGEROUS FOR YOU way of ultra-goddesses and okay, I admit it, I fall for Kubo's big tittied girls. We didn't get to know Harribel but certainly she was shown in a more positive light than many of the Espada--and that makes Aizen one-shotting her look so EBIL. >.< Great job, Kubo.
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_debbiechan_: Aizen cruel but awesome by heterogen_debbiechan_ on September 23rd, 2009 02:05 pm (UTC)
Yeah guys, the cries of Kubo is a troll and the grief over the Espada is high over at the chapter thread at BA. I think that just means Kubo's doing his job killing us, you know. Someone in the Starrk FC said reading Bleach was like being in an abusive relationship. XD PEOPLE LOVE THESE CHARACTERS--I haven't seen this sort of love-craziness in other fandoms, not to this extent.

Anyway, here's how I answered timeco:

Originally Posted by .access timeco. View Post
Seriously, am I the only one who doesn't believe Harribel is dead?

I don't know, if Aizen rips her head off or tear her in 2 parts I will probably be convinced... but with anything less than that I really can't see she dying.

I don't believe she's dead but I'm famous for my Pollyanna outlook. I hope when there is no hope that the bad guys will live. It does seem so out of character for Kubo-sensei to mercilessly kill off characters who he "hyped" and made likable although as people have been saying, they WERE the enemy, and Kubo cooked up our compassion for them and served it up for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Point made over and over again: we HAVE to think about the distinctions between Hollow and Human, Arrancar and Visored, Black and White, Good and Evil and recognize where beings are more alike than different.

All that said, Aizen has a lousy track record killing people. Hitsugaya and Momo are very much alive and what with all those healers of Hacchi-san quality running around, I can still hope.


The color spread looks like a hot boys fashion spread. That'll take some of the edge off the Espada death.

Edited at 2009-09-23 04:47 pm (UTC)