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15 September 2009 @ 09:38 am
more spoilers (now with pix) for the infinitely curious  
69 posted more spoiler info on 2ch for this week's chapter and Cez translated. Have to say, I'm loving this week's title HARD.




Originally Posted by 69
69るま ◆KENseIuXK2 :2009/09/15(火) 19:20:33 ID:LHy/60Mx0
もう既にきてるバレで充分な感じかな・・・
The spoilers Nja posted are already enough...

タイトルは灰狼・赤血・黒衣・白骨
The title is Gray Wolf, Red Blood, Black clothing, White Bone

影鬼でなんか享楽がスタークの影に潜ってて、刺したあと影からでてきてた。
Seems like Shunsui used Monster of Shadow to hide in Stark's shadow, and he reappeared after he stabbed Stark.

影を踏むと中に入れるのかわからないけど、享楽がそのあと影に刀を突き刺すと突き刺した分だけ スタークの影 から刀の形をした影飛び出してた。
Don't know if he entered the shadow by stepping on it or something, Shunsui was only shown stabbing Stark from the shadow, as in the shape of his sword came shooting out from the shadow.

艶鬼は口にした色以外は斬れない。ただし、自分にとってリスクの高い色ほど与える傷が大きくな る。
Monster of color will not cut places other than the stated color. However, you can deal a large wound if you use a color that has a high risk for yourself.

リスクの高い色というのは自分の着てる服の色とか。
By a high-risk color, it means something like the color your clothes are made of.

あとはスタークが二刀流になってたくらいかな
Then Stark turned into a double sword wielder...or so it seems to me.

69るま ◆KENseIuXK2 :2009/09/15(火) 19:31:37 ID:LHy/60Mx0
二刀流は刀といっても弾倉から霊子?をだしてつくった感じで幽々白書の桑原のあの刀みたいなや つ
By double sword, it's something like Reishi coming out of the gun point. Something like Kuwabara's sword from Yu Yu Hakusho.
回想にはいないね、仲間だった連中は俺たちといるだけで魂が削れて消えていったとかなんとか
This wasn't in the spoiler for the flashback. Stark said something like "Because they were with us, the ones who were our allies had their souls thinned out and disappeared". (TN: This is just a theory but somehow by Stark/Lili's presence alone, they kill off the weaker ones surrounding them, at least that's how this phrase sounded to me)



thanks to Zangetsu for the pix












I'm going to temporarily rejoice because I've seen people squirt tons more blood in Bleach and survive and I want my omake with sake, dammit! STARRRRRRRRRK! SHUNSUI! YOU MENS WITH CHEEKBONES!

LOL, LB7-sensei was predicting that Lilynette might be the original form and manifest as something totally badass and it occurred to me that Starrk WOULD be the invention of a little Hollow girl, wouldn't he be--like, her fantasy man? He certainly is mine. Oh just wrap him up with a side order of Shunsui and some Ukitake and mmmm, sexy older guys with their wicked ways (oh and Ukitake with his free candy). This. Is. Bleach.

The other pictures are HERE at BA



Starrk: Everyone who group that were friends, just by being with us, their souls whittled away and disappeared. Because we were lonely, we separated into two.

Which one of us was the original? or possibly neither of us were the original? As a way to escape the loneliness, that was the only way.

We were jealous of the weak. If we were weaker, we could have as many in a pack as we liked. We want to become weak. [insert cute panel of Starrk and Lilynette] If that's impossible, then companions who were of the same strength as I-


more commentary about the translation at lennan's BA post here

 
 
 
nehalenia: starknehalenia on September 15th, 2009 05:07 pm (UTC)
Whoa, very interesting! I don't recall who, but someone suggested there might be shadow powers involved a la Shikamaru. Also, the reason for Stark being alone is sad. Sounds like he would like friends but can't have them since bad things happen to them. Man, him going down is going to hurt. (The only thing good about it is we're that much closer to HM. I hope.)
andrew_jpandrew_jp on September 15th, 2009 10:22 pm (UTC)
*ahem*

That would be me who totally fucking called a shadow ability.

Yes, I am awesome. Why not tell me again?
nehalenia: chad interp dancenehalenia on September 15th, 2009 10:32 pm (UTC)
LOL! You're awesome! If it would let me, I'd edit my comment to give the proper source. :D

Good call.
_debbiechan_: HERO ISHIDA!_debbiechan_ on September 16th, 2009 02:07 am (UTC)

YOU ARE AWESOME, ANDREW JP. SHIKAMARU SHADOW ABILITY FTW!
Kylara: insanity i has itkarenai on September 15th, 2009 05:31 pm (UTC)
//Then Stark turned into a double sword wielder...or so it seems to me.//

This chapter gets more WHOA by the spoiler. Holy!

//Monster of color will not cut places other than the stated color. However, you can deal a large wound if you use a color that has a high risk for yourself.

By a high-risk color, it means something like the color your clothes are made of.//

Okay, I'm trying to understand this. So when Shunsui called "black", it was powerful because he was wearing a lot of it. That was also risky, because had the turn been off by one, Starrk could have called it out on him, too. Starrk is wearing black pants and it's threaded through his coat.

... if Shunsui carried a wardrobe with him to battle, would this help him? (Assuming the sword picked this game.)
Danielwdboldstar on September 15th, 2009 05:51 pm (UTC)
So giving Ukitake's warning, I'm wondering if more than 2 people can "play" the Zanpaktou's game.

And if so, it'd be interesting to see one of the big 3 or even Stark himself catch on and use the Shikai to mess up other bystanders or turn the tide of battle in their favor.

Then again, maybe Yoruichi could just show up, say "Orange," and reeeally mess up Tousen, if he's still wearing that necklace thing of his. >_>
karkashan: Hazekarkashan on September 15th, 2009 06:34 pm (UTC)
...Shunsui's Zanpakuto scares me a little bit...

I hope she/it does something cool in the filler arc.
oh gallant piglet,: lilynetteaizome on September 15th, 2009 10:16 pm (UTC)
Ah. So now we get an explanation for why there are so many slightly creepy frames in both the manga and the anime of Shunsui with his face obscured in shadow. No wonder he wears that colorful haori.

And yeah, Starrk isn't bleeding nearly as much as Renji was when Byakuya smacked him up with bankai. Wonder how many more chapters bitter Barragan fanboys can keep up their silly broken-record ranting. lol
nehalenia: chad interp dancenehalenia on September 15th, 2009 10:40 pm (UTC)
Oh god, are the fanbois still at it? (I've been staying off of BA except for checking FC because I might be forced to say something to all the people who hate that Shunsui stabbed Stark from behind.)

And oh my, good call on the creepy shadow frames. I hadn't even noticed! Good god, KT really is a freaky f*cking genius! Now I'm going to wonder about what else I've missed.
oh gallant piglet,: lilynetteaizome on September 15th, 2009 11:12 pm (UTC)
I'm staying away too. A very big part of me wants to tell a certain two-or-three people to "just put it in your sig so you don't have to type it in every damned post." Also I want to say, "all your hating on Starrk fans isn't going to bring back your dearly beloved Barry," but I'd probably get banned. In short, yeah, some have still got their lips around Barry's skeletor cock.
nehalenia: rose i'd be entertained if it wasn't sonehalenia on September 15th, 2009 11:33 pm (UTC)
Once again, it's a good thing I can't draw because I'm finding the last line of your comment visually inspiring.

Heeheheheee!

"Mmmmmmm.... Bony."
deathlike on September 16th, 2009 12:48 am (UTC)
Holy crap-o-la... They are still picking bones on that skeleton. I think there's nothing left to chew on with how they keep ranting on the dead greaser...
Kylara: rory cryingkarenai on September 16th, 2009 01:04 am (UTC)
Shunsui has very efficiently - thank you, Kubo - TERRIFIED ME.

I still love him, I'm just saying, he looks like a monster.
oh gallant piglet,: screamaizome on September 16th, 2009 02:30 am (UTC)
YES. I love him to pieces, but in that first scan, he looks like he's rising up out of the primordial ooze.
ruinin fuckin' everythingallelujah on September 15th, 2009 10:23 pm (UTC)
either Stark is alive or Stark is gonna get a flashback chapter

either way, I sure hope so
nehalenia: shunsui lovenehalenia on September 15th, 2009 10:36 pm (UTC)
Oh god, there are pictures now!!! On Tuesday!!! I'll bet we get an early chapter this week.

And all my excitement is just a cover because that last image is killing me! The composition is gorgeous, but OMG STAAAAAAARRRRRK! *weeps*

You know it's even worse when one of your fave characters is the one killing another of your fave characters. Wahhh!
♀*La Muerte Chiquita*♀: WTFla_kalaka on September 15th, 2009 10:59 pm (UTC)
OMG! PICCIES!!! *____________________*

Well, I LOVE high contrast, come on, in the graphic aspect Kubo doesn't cease to amaze, o dear, that whadowed image of Shunsui and the panel with him emerging from the shadows are AWESOME.

I felt for Starrk too, he is that type of character I love the most.

I skip the fanboys complaining, beacuse is pretty idiot that they wish for deaths cuz this is a f*cking war and now they are complaining about back stabbing (when for me this is a practical move that Shunsui was doing sine the beggining).

If I remember correctly while Rukia trained Ichigo in the first chapters of Bleach, she said to him that in a battle what counts was to end with the enemy not fight with honor.



sensei was predicting that Lilynette might be the original form and manifest as something totally badass and it occurred to me that Starrk WOULD be the invention of a little Hollow girl, wouldn't he be--like, her fantasy man?

Woah! that's such an awesome idea, there is something bizarre about it that I like. I would lik to write a piece of that *_*

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Kylarakarenai on September 16th, 2009 01:06 am (UTC)
;____________; And holy crap, I didn't notice how it was all Japanese until you said so. Oh my god, oh my god, that's so lovely, that's so scary.

///If that's impossible, then companions who were of the same strength as I-//

*bawls* Kubo, Kubo, I WANT TO BEAR YOUR CHILDREN. THAT'S AN HONOR I'VE ONLY OFFERED STEPHEN COLBERT. DEBBIE, YOU'LL HAVE TO FIGHT ME. OH GOD.

/hysteria
radical_ed57radical_ed57 on September 15th, 2009 11:40 pm (UTC)
Ooo, very nice indeed. I'm not as worried about Stark as I was before, but I'm still hoping Kubo-sensei spares him. My sexy Stark...

Also, bad ass Shunsui is incredibly bad ass. He and Stark are both so sexy. XD
Quirkygrlmshepnj on September 16th, 2009 04:10 am (UTC)
Oh just wrap him up with a side order of Shunsui and some Ukitake and mmmm, sexy older guys with their wicked ways (oh and Ukitake with his free candy).

Now THAT is a sammich! I'll take two of everything.
missberlitz4 on September 16th, 2009 07:02 am (UTC)
Naww, I didn't even notice that picture of the two of them. (Lily and Starrk)

;___; *baws*
incandescens: Shunsui Paintedincandescens on September 16th, 2009 08:51 am (UTC)
I think it would be splendid if Lilynette were the original, and Stark just a part of her personality/fantasy split off so that she wasn't alone . . .

Also, I am deeply enjoying what we are seeing of Shunsui's darker side. I could mutter about duality of nature, and this as parallel to his lighter more easy-going side, and the one side of him that's all flowers and drinking and laziness and the other side that's darker and arbitrary and lethal, and whether Ukitake also has a side to his character that doesn't come out unless it's absolutely necessary (a more elemental side, perhaps? lightning and storm?), and whether Nanao is as aware of this darker side to Shunsui as she is of his more regular self, and what this says about his relationships with other people, and . . .

. . . but I'm sure everyone else has already thought about it while looking at that lovely, lovely scan on the title page.
empressmaudeempressmaude on September 16th, 2009 02:59 pm (UTC)
I kind of want Lilynette to be the original too, if only for the heartbreaking aspect of the most powerful hollow being this desperately lonely little girl.

I think that Ukitake would absolutely have this dark side to him. If you think about it, Shunsui almost seems to make up for his more dangerous side by being so lazy and laid back, as if he needs to be that way to keep himself in balance. If we go by that logic, then can you imagine what Ukitake would be like if he needed to get serious? He's normally so friendly and sweet, with his bonsai and his candy and everything. If Ukitake is really associated with lightening and storm and water, then it reminds me of how these things can be so destructive.

pony_rocks: pic#84544780pony_rocks on September 16th, 2009 09:15 am (UTC)
Ah... I know I am going to repeat myself, but I sincerely hope that Shunsui's scary/sad look is just for the sake of the show. To my paranoid eyes, he seems to be shaken over Ukitake's serious state/death. :(
*goes kick herself for such stupid panic-mongering*
カルラ (carla): ishida uryuu: quincygirls_are_weird on September 16th, 2009 01:03 pm (UTC)
 
my god. that title. i think i just died a little. :O

wow. i knew shunsui was awesome and all, but now it turns out he's like shikamaru's long lost uncle or something and oh my gawd that is just the coolest thing ever! x3 x3 x3 and he's so damn creepy at it, too! gosh, the art in this chapter, the art in this chapter...

look! starrk has a sword again! *loves* ♥

really, despite all the blood, starrk is so not going to die. did people learn nothing from saint seiya? *shakes head* deb, we'll see that omake yet, i just know it. i feel it in my bones.

oh, and also:

LB7-sensei was predicting that Lilynette might be the original form and manifest as something totally badass and it occurred to me that Starrk WOULD be the invention of a little Hollow girl, wouldn't he be--like, her fantasy man?

OMG TRUFAX FTW. this is absolutely canon. *flails*

(imagine lilynette popping back out and revealing her very own 01 tattoo. gah).
 
incandescensincandescens on September 16th, 2009 01:42 pm (UTC)
And just think of the effect. They put Starrk down. Everyone relaxes and takes a deep breath as Lilynette pops up. After all, they've just dealt with the real threat, right?

Then #1 Espada Lilynette, without the apathetic lazy nice side of her personality any more (since they just killed him), goes postal on them.
Manjamoonlightspirit on September 16th, 2009 05:55 pm (UTC)
omg I cant say much, I have to keep staring at the pictures o_o damn I really love Shunsuis scary looks despite the fact that they kinda scare me xD I really like the panel of him coming out of Starks shadow and that title page, damn *keeps on staring*