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24 August 2009 @ 09:13 pm
More on Rukia's Sexy FTB Pose and Bleach's 8th Anniversary  

No spoilers yet so shall we continue discussing such crucial matters as Rukia's pantyline in the FTB DVD illustration? I believe we have confirmation now of a Brazilian and the most revealing pose ever from a Bleach character in official merchandising. Curious, because Kubo-sensei has kept Rukia covered, albeit sexy, throughout the manga, and always demure like in the two swimsuit spreads but ...

Originally Posted by sketchbaka at the BA IchiRuki FC:

Btw there's a colored version here -->
and if you click on 劇場 you can see how the packaging would be for limited edition.

And then our own dear perverted karenai made this 300% blow up in this post here and I've apparently lost a bet because I really DID NOT believe Rukia was showing that much skin. I'm still not convinced the whole to-do isn't an illusion of flesh-colored obi-shadow.

This week marks the 8th anniversary of Bleach the manga. I expected a cover and spread but neither are announced. Do expect a word or two from Kubo, though. EIGHT YEARS. Can you believe? Bleach is a little older than my daugher who's already lost most of her baby teeth and knows how to cuss in three languages. How far have we come since a little Shinigami walked into Kurosaki Ichigo's bedroom? We all know that's Shinji on far right of the title page and some discarded, never used character on the left and I wonder how much of Bleach was already there, like DNA, eight years ago, and what's really new. I do know that I appreciated the character development in this story, even as the attention given to so many characters has slowed down the plot, and I've always marveled at the growth of Kubo's art. Some prefer his early style, some his SS style but I love how he's drawing now--where you have to look at close-up objects once, twice, and then maybe turn the page back to look at them again because that abstract motion is later zoomed away from and shown to be Shinji twirling his hat on his finger in gleeful anticipation and there's a sense of a pendulum swinging as well. Orihime's face seen through Ulquiorra's dying eyes isn't at all the Orihime Kubo usually draws--her face is more oval shaped, mature, beatific.  The art has glorious poetry for me and I love Bleach more than ever. How about you?

n a o k o || want your rad bromance: TeslaHime- Look at usnendo_chan on August 25th, 2009 02:48 am (UTC)
I definitely agree about the art style- only CLAMP can make me swoon more with the details.
Katelynanimefantasyfan on August 25th, 2009 02:49 am (UTC)
OMG, first comment?

Debbie, I love how you stand by your man Bleach after so much fandom wank and dragging plot.

I can't say that I love Bleach as much as I used to, but for every thing that I find wrong with it currently (loooong fights, annoying Inoue) he always finds a way to keep me reading (Ulquihime, and of course, Rukia... when she's there). I'd personally have preferred Bleach to continue at the pace that it did earlier, but Kubo does love all of his characters, and I respect him for giving them all a chance to shine, even the villains.

That and the movie's pretty conveniently timed too, coming out just before a major convention hits my area. I will buy it, believe you me. :)
Katelynanimefantasyfan on August 25th, 2009 02:50 am (UTC)
OMG, not first comment. :(
(no subject) - _debbiechan_ on August 25th, 2009 03:00 am (UTC) (Expand)
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Becky: Bleach - UlquiHime Handsgully_moe on August 25th, 2009 03:12 am (UTC)
"...I love Bleach more than ever. How about you?"

You asked, so I'll answer.

Right after the Ash, I could not love Bleach more than I ever had before. I loved it, yet hated the fact that it took my favorite character away.

Chapters after that, as I look at this current story arc in context I cannot help but like Bleach less than I ever had before. In fact I've never felt this way about Bleach. It's dropped down on my favorites. I do not have the patience anymore. There's something nice to like about the chapters, but it just does not compare. I find that Kubo isn't really going anywhere with the story, that is, if there is one.

I'm just not into the fights. It's now action over plot and characterization, and he has to show every single character fight. Honestly, I am bored with the manga right now. And for that I am sorry, but I thought I'd be honest as a fan and member here.

Not quitting the fandom or the story, just venting my frustration.

(BTW. I loved HM arc. I didn't think it was going down hill at that point. I enjoyed it a little more than SS arc at some points.)

Edited at 2009-08-25 03:14 am (UTC)
_debbiechan_: Kubo is my boyfriend 2_debbiechan_ on August 25th, 2009 03:24 am (UTC)

Vent on me, baby, that's what we're here for.

You're not alone. So many people are frustrated with this arc. But I've been pretty happy since TBTP and the excitement on the Dome with Ulquiorra and the return of the Visored. Compare the emotional match-ups now to the excruciating battles like Szayel vs Renji and Ishida (oh I love all three characters but the fights themselves.... ugh, and soooooo fillery). The last fight with Soi and Barry and Hutch was really fun. And those VC fights of way back everyone was complaining about--I enjoyed them like little parables. We got off the plot track for sure but I, for one, love Yumi and Ikkaku and Hisagi and was glad to learn more about them and loved the mini-lectures on art and beauty and fear and pride in those chapters.

I'm the hugest fangirl though and I'll admit it. THE HUGEST.
(no subject) - gully_moe on August 25th, 2009 03:30 am (UTC) (Expand)
never give up!  ৵  never surrender!: (bleach) ishida's talking in heartsloquaciousquark on August 25th, 2009 04:25 am (UTC)
Man, I don't know if I have low standards or what, but honestly, I've really loved every chapter. Of course there are some I've loved more than others, but the ones I've actively disliked have been few and far between. There were a couple way back in the Zaraki/Komamura/Tousen fight in SS and a couple since coming to HM, but yeah. I pretty much love it.
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on August 26th, 2009 04:09 pm (UTC)

LOL, the Kenpachi/Tousen fight was one of my ALL TIME faves because of Zenpachi's unusual strategy and the (then) peculiar turn about of bad guy doing good (Kenpachi) and good guy seeming bad (Tousen). Kubo played that again in the Lust arc and I remembered that fight.

I love all Bleach. I wish it would hurry up a bit but yeah, I love it all.
(no subject) - loquaciousquark on August 26th, 2009 04:46 pm (UTC) (Expand)
selenityshiroi: rukia shinigamiselenityshiroi on August 25th, 2009 04:43 am (UTC)
Bleach frustrates me less than the vocal members of BA! Sure, it drags a little when it's battle after battle week after week, but it flows okay in the volumes.

And he always drags me back in when I get distracted.

I love Bleach. And I'm sure I will continue to do so.

Also...FtB!!! RUKIA!!!
it's green and tastes like licorice.: ichigorionarch on August 25th, 2009 05:00 am (UTC)
I loved the Heuco Mundo arc! Especially the chapter "Leave the Chocolate Here" because it gave me so much anticipation for the chapters to come. I don't think there was a clearer sign that what happened in "The Lust" chapters was going to happen. The entire arc ripped the characters out of their safety zone (Shinigami/Quincy/Human/Shinigami/Hollow identities, because really none of them are supposed to exist together.)

The Fake Karakura Town is a little draggy, though, but from a writer's perspective its like gold. It showing that the world exists beyond the main characters and that there are forces to be dealt with, and are capable of dealing. This is the Soul Society that outlawed Mod Souls and tried to kill off the Quincies.

And I just want to share a conversation I just had with my non-bleach-fan friend. She dealt with my "OH MY FREAkEN GOD I RIPPED OFF HIS ARM!" play by plays. She knows Bleach only through the crack I send her. Then she decided to tell me that she'd rather gouge an eye ball out instead of willingly read Bleach.

Really, all you can do is send her to Chap 198, page 7 and laugh.

(But please, dear god, give us some evil by choice character insight!)
Lizzy, a harmless lecher and pyromaniac: No Srsly [Bleach]wicked_liz on August 25th, 2009 06:19 am (UTC)
I don't compare HM to the SS arc - yes it's elliptical, but it's a concurrent story and can't be viewed separately.

The SS arc was very much the classic fairytale, hero saves the day and we all live happily ever after, we even get to find out that Rukia was an actual princess of the Kuchiki Clan (lulz). If Kubo was interested in fulfilling the boring stereotype he'd be much loved. But why be loved when you can be hated for telling the story he wanted to in the first place. I'm glad I'm not up-to-date with the manga, cause I was getting bitter, and I do like it, so before I get sick of it (like I did Inuyasha) its best I give it a break, even if all the cool spoilers I read are making me clench my fists...X/

Sexy! Rukia - I'm grinning so widely that I'm woried about wrinkles XD

As an artist, Kubo is definitely in my top 3 for mangaka. But he has to compete with Kentaro Miura (Berserk) and Yoshitaka Amano (illustrator only for Vampire Hunter D, etc) so the company is pretty amazing.
cutepoison89: pic#ichirukicutepoison89 on August 25th, 2009 10:50 am (UTC)
Oh my,that FTB drawing is very hawt!
8 years? Wow I didn't think it was that much,congrats Kubo-sensei! And yes,Bleach is still my number one shining bright for eveyone.
Kylarakarenai on August 25th, 2009 06:54 pm (UTC)
I'm MORE perverted than that, Debbie. For the benefit of people not in the IchiRuki FC, I screencapped this:

I'm telling you, no underwear. omg.

As for Bleach? Do I love it the SAME way as I did at the beginning? I wholeheartedly worshiped Bleach back then, and that feeling is gone. But I was a lot younger then, and the series was, too. I think I know it better now. I have a very deep and abiding love and respect for the series, for my ship, and especially, Kubo. If I could get him good editors that he'd listen to about pacing I'd be thrilled, though.
_debbiechan_: rukia peeking_debbiechan_ on August 25th, 2009 09:11 pm (UTC)

I'm shocked.

Er, to repeat what I said in the FC:

Like Annie and others have said, I know that Kubo himself opened the door when he drew that spread "with all his might" last year that showed Rukia's panty-less pantyline but frankly, I'm shocked. This is the most explicit fanservice, nudity, erm, I don't know what else to call, moment of reveal in a bit of authentic official merchandising yet, and like Annie, I'm not quite sure what to think about it. On the one hand, yes, wow, that fairly settles that Ichigo and Rukia are not being promoted as a platonic couple. As if Sony calling the IchiRuki duet "a love song" didn't settle that but Ichigo's clutching his heart looking like he's about to tear off his own clothes for a really REALLY exposed Rukia here. It's blatant fanservice, although still not a trashy pic, a very pretty one but ...

C'mon, I can't be the only Bleach fan who is just floored that the studio has gone this far. And with Kubo's approval apparently ... and what does that mean for the manga ... and damn.

To tell you the truth, as much as I like the pic, I'd like to move that bit of obi over just a tad. Just a tad. Show no more than Kubo did in his FTB spread. Because even though I don't really care about respecting or disrespecting fictional characters, this crosses a threshold for Rukia. She's a sexy poster girl now. I know she's so much more so that really shouldn't bother me, and hellsyeah, sexy is great and all but ... I'm still really surprised. I thought I'd read that the atmosphere in Japan was getting more conservative lately regarding manga and anime sexual imagery to youth (not that it had ever been really conservative )

That picture will never make to the USA that's for sure, LOL.
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Kylarakarenai on August 25th, 2009 07:04 pm (UTC)
Oh, forgot to say. Blonde chick on the left. Didn't Kubo say once that he used her face for a later character? Because I always thought she looked a lot like his early drawings of Rangiku.
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on August 25th, 2009 09:09 pm (UTC)

I always thought she was Ichigo's mother but... hmm, too lazy to search for the interview but I think he said he never used the character.
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Wynnwinn_12 on August 26th, 2009 06:26 am (UTC)
Hmmm I honestly always thought she didn't wear underwear under the kimono, and that's how I've treated the issue on my fics... as far as I know the hadajuban and nagajuban are the only underwear supposed to be used under kimonos, so nothing like western underwear. I always thought she used panties with the school uniform only, as just one more piece of what she understood from "human attires". I was, of course, slightly shocked to see all that exposed, especially after that beach episode... then again, I found weird then that she was the only girl not portrayed sexly in the episode, considering the attention Rukia receives from the male population of Bleach, some of it not pure or naive at all (like Gin's or the bount woman).

But, hey I'm confused by this pic, am I the only one that finds weird that little part over her right breast? Is that skin as well? (like, is half of her right breast exposed as well?). I couldn't decipher it, because that skin seems too large to be her arm only, but doesn't make sense to be her torso, some space besides her neck seems to be missing and it just looks weird to me. Am I imagining things?
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on August 26th, 2009 01:36 pm (UTC)

The picture isn't anatomically correct on lots of fine points but yeah, that's Rukia's underarm facing the viewer and we see part of her exposed breast.