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27 January 2008 @ 08:11 pm
Kubo Interview from Bleach 307 (spoiler included)  

There's a treat in chapter 307--no, not the top 10 spread or the omake where Kon goes "Hinamori! What are you doing here! Go home and get some rest!" (still chuckling over that one.... and Ulquiorra's little green scarf in that drawing.... see photo in yesterday's post). In chapter 307 we're treated to a Kubo Tite interview and some shots of his work station. Kubo has very pretty hands, although I question his taste in rings.

Ooops, no that's not really what he's written there.  Here's another picture and a translation by melody_mix of part of the interview. Thank you Mel!

About the character. 1 Until Ichigo and Rukia were made

Okay, let’s ask about this months topic “Characters”. First of all, let’s start with our main characters Ichigo and Rukia

“The first Ichigo I drew wore glasses. He wore glasses and had black hair * laugh *
He also had kind eyes… and it looks like a different person from the Ichigo we have now”

Is it true that Rukia’s design was decided before Ichigo’s design?

“Before the story was decided a Shingami uniform popped up into my mind. Unlike the design we have now it was like a uniform from Catholic school where they wore a black jacket over a white blouse with a black bowtie… and they carried a huge scissors. I thought that was what Shinigami was like. After that, to match Rukia’s design I changed Ichigo’s character design. Like Rukia had black hair so it’s best if Ichigo didn’t have black hair.”

SPOILER FOR 307 below:

Meanwhile, I must've caught Guildenstern's passion for proper translation. Free translation is one thing, poetic license is another but it's really bugging me when some of the translations I see on the web take liberties with characterization. For example,  chapter 307 has Ishida going "TOO CLOSE TOO CLOSE TOO CLOSE!" in the panel where Nemu's about to suffocate him with her breasts as she holds him down for Mayuri "repair." One scanlator translates the line "Why am I suddenly craving dairy?" UGH. Like Ishida would say such a thing. As if Kubo's adolescent humor isn't bad enough. someone has to make it even DUMBER.

Oh it goes without saying that I and other Bleach fans appreciate the hard wonderful work that scanlators do to bring us the manga but like Guildy always says "no translation is better than BAD translation."

And that's my pissiness for today.

Meanwhile: WOOT! KUBO DESIGNED RUKIA FIRST!   And Kubo changed Ichigo to match her! GIRL POWER  . GIRL.  POWER.
Current Mood: ecstaticecstatic
The Princess of Seyruun: RukiHime moment.amelia_seyroon on January 28th, 2008 02:30 am (UTC)
Ha ha, that's so awesome. XD;
_debbiechan_: soi fong_debbiechan_ on January 28th, 2008 05:08 am (UTC)

Girl. POWER.
deathlike on January 28th, 2008 02:35 am (UTC)
(Slow) I am working on chapter 307 write up. It ties in with the last chapters...
_debbiechan_: MY FANDOM IS CRAZIER THAN YOURS_debbiechan_ on January 28th, 2008 05:09 am (UTC)

Don't hurt yourself, hon. Take your cold meds.
Adam Eppadam_epp on January 28th, 2008 03:35 am (UTC)
That "Why am I suddenly craving dairy?" line is hilarious. Looks like another blurb is put on the backburner of my mind. There's so much in the world to laugh at, it's not even funny.

Hey, would the previous sentence qualify as an epigrammatic expression?

As a fan of biology, hearing that Rukia was designed first makes me happy. That's the way it goes in the womb, with every human baby starting off as a girl, physically (the reason mens gots us somes nipples). Yeah, genetics rule.

And it seems Rukia did not only change Ichigo's world. She changed his hair. Whoa nelly! Isn't it always huge in Japanese culture when somebody changes their hair--or, rather, cuts it. And old Rukia had a pair of giant scissors? Quite the dramatic symbolism Kubo was hiding from us here, eh? Dare I say, undeniable proof? This is a huge development. The IchiRuki eagle that our side needed to turn the tide in the war against them.
_debbiechan_: Ichigo cross-eyed_debbiechan_ on January 28th, 2008 05:11 am (UTC)

You know, what with ZP and all, I would've said Kubo has a thing for over-sized phallic weapons... but now that I know Rukia originally carried a big pair of scissors?

Yeah, Kubo's a feminist. He really is. ^______________^

And nah on the IchiRuki eagle. IchiRuki has enough canon text for its supporters so it doesn't have to rely on weird symbology.
♀*La Muerte Chiquita*♀la_kalaka on January 28th, 2008 04:29 am (UTC)
“The first Ichigo I drew wore glasses. He wore glasses and had black hair * laugh *

When I read this, my first though was... THAT WAS ISHIDA!!!!

_debbiechan_: HERO ISHIDA!_debbiechan_ on January 28th, 2008 05:12 am (UTC)

I've seen that picture of the original Ichigo. He looked like a big dork. Maybe Kubo took that part out of him and sculpted Ishida.
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gyabooo: [Air Gear] Akito yaaaaaaaaykucheekybadkuya on January 28th, 2008 06:16 am (UTC)
Rukia before Ichigo? KT's gorgeous character designs are easily my favourite thing about Bleach, but now I find myself thrilled with even his process of designing characers XD He wins <3
_debbiechan_: Kubo is my boyfriend 2_debbiechan_ on January 28th, 2008 03:07 pm (UTC)

He's MINE! You can't have him! XD
nehalenianehalenia on January 28th, 2008 07:21 am (UTC)
Poor Ishida! I just read 307 today, and while I love all the screen time Ishida's been getting, Kubo is really having a bit too much fun with him perhaps. The "too close x3" translation is way better -- and more in character -- than the "dairy craving" one (which I didn't see). I'm also wondering -- did Renji ask Mayuri to heal him first to get him to leave Ishida alone?

Also, I sort of hate it I'm... er, liking is too strong a word, so let's just say enjoying Mayuri so much in these last few installments.
_debbiechan_: red and white by meeeee_debbiechan_ on January 28th, 2008 02:57 pm (UTC)

did Renji ask Mayuri to heal him first to get him to leave Ishida alone?

That was my first thought. I'm glad you said that. It would be IC for Renji. I've heard people complain that Renji shouldn't be eager to get into the battle because he should be worried about Rukia. But Rukia's healed and he should've felt her reiatsu, right?

And as for interfering with Kenpachi's battle, Renji spent time in the 11th division and knows to let one on one battles happen.

I think he was trying to get Mayuri to let Ishida alone.

Yeah, Mayuri's character has been shining lately.
(no subject) - xilvrin on January 28th, 2008 10:51 pm (UTC) (Expand)
fingersinitaly: interestingfurato on January 28th, 2008 07:57 am (UTC)
"Why am I suddenly craving dairy?"
Let me guess... Binktopia? They've always been the king of liberal interpretation and making character talking "cool". I kinda like their releases as parody translation.
_debbiechan_: SZAYEL JEALOUSY_debbiechan_ on January 28th, 2008 03:00 pm (UTC)

Yes, it was Binktopia... I usually don't read them unless there's a chapter I'm confused about so I want to get all the scans' takes. The thrown in jokes annoy me to no end, so I don't know what I was expecting. I should go back and read their Szayel chapters bc honestly, how WORSE can you make his sex jokes?
Dumb Fangirl: [Airmaster] Kaoriliciousemlan on January 28th, 2008 02:39 pm (UTC)
just stick to juni and you'll save yourself some scanlation grief LOL
_debbiechan_: HICHI wants to play_debbiechan_ on January 28th, 2008 03:01 pm (UTC)

Yes JuNi is the best. I like Franky House too now. Curiosity kills the cat with Binktopia.
SilvaNoir: Szayelxilvrin on January 28th, 2008 11:06 pm (UTC)

Obviously Kubo is BIG PIMPIN' with those rings.

Giant scissors for Rukia... that should be her bankai. she could cut out bears and bunnies out of magic paper and they would attack her opponent. I can see it now...

and oh, bad translation... I don't like when people add in jokes like that. There's only one instance where I found it funny (In the english dub of the anime, they had Urahara say to cat!Yoruichi "who's your daddy?")
_debbiechan_: Urahara Too Sexy_debbiechan_ on January 29th, 2008 01:40 am (UTC)

(In the english dub of the anime, they had Urahara say to cat!Yoruichi "who's your daddy?")

LOL. I caught that! I remember being excited when the dub came out and watching the first few eps. I hated Urahara's surfer accent but that line KILLED me.
Cattsy: Fuck Christmas: Ville celebrating Eastercattereia on January 29th, 2008 07:34 am (UTC)
While i appreciate scanlations before i can find a place that sells Bleach in my territory and translated, it's kinda annoying that some scanlators change dialogue; it confuses the hell outta me because it changes character personality as well. I could never imagine someone like Ishida saying that.
As for the first image: A girl's allowed to imagine. :p
_debbiechan_: 1200_debbiechan_ on January 29th, 2008 10:51 pm (UTC)

<3 This girl imagines a lot.

And yeah, Ishida craving dairy. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.
Chloe-girl: Shirosaki (evil laugh)grass_angel on January 29th, 2008 11:39 am (UTC)
Same special interview: Kubo has a manga artist sized stack of Copics. Previously, I had thought he used watercolours.

Ne, Debbie, don't forget that translation is the only thing that can skew a person's reading of it. Or not.
tsubaki99tsubaki99 on January 29th, 2008 02:57 pm (UTC)
Ummm...Please don't shoot me but...what's a "copic"?
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(Anonymous) on January 29th, 2008 03:00 pm (UTC)
People are so shipping oriented in the way they sometimes interpret events.

Yes, Renji wanted to leave to help whoever(of his nakama) needed help. the trans did not mention him going to ichigo. It was Mayuri who told him that the only busy ones fighting are on ichigo's side(Kenpachi) and it'd be better for him not to interfere and unlike some interpretations here he wasn't trying to be healed first so that he could get Mayuri off Ishida so that Mayuri can stop torturing ishida or whatever...that is sooooooo off. He genuinely wanted to be healed first so that he could go and fight others. He'll most definitely leave the Mayuri and Ishida scene if it was not for Mayuri rejection of his demand.


_debbiechan_: It's Like He's Doing it On PURPOSE_debbiechan_ on January 29th, 2008 03:32 pm (UTC)

Well, um, yeah, Jasse, that would be your conventional interpretation.

I just don't like it that Renji addresses Captain Kurotsuchi with respect and would like to think he's one up on him the way he was with Yamomato (when Renji showed Ichigo how to deal with SS authority!)
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lpdrunknmunkylpdrunknmunky on February 2nd, 2008 03:16 am (UTC)
Sadly enough, I think that if Ichigo didn't have orange hair, I would not have gotten into the show as much as I did, and I probably would not love it as much as I do now...so go orange hair! Yeah.