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22 November 2011 @ 07:07 pm
Bleach 474 is Up  
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산토끼 × san-toki: 『b』 → kaien || swallow + coconut?!san_toki on November 23rd, 2011 12:15 am (UTC)
Sweet Jesus, that was an intense chapter....

Soul Society is Big Brother now? It is a smart system...ngl but pretty creepy. Ginjou could be pulling an Aizen like Ishida thought.

All in all, I'm starting to get really excited about this arc! Finally!

That colorspread was cute, glad to see SS updated their phones and she has the cutest skin for it! D'awwww!

Edited at 2011-11-23 12:17 am (UTC)
Ananomoreprinces on November 23rd, 2011 02:52 am (UTC)
glad to see SS updated their phones

To iPhones no less. Sheesh. At first glance I thought it was an android phone but the calendar icon in the bottom right is clearly iCal.

yes im that nerdy when it comes to mobile phones
Kylara: rukia hair breezekarenai on November 23rd, 2011 12:17 am (UTC)
Wow, that is the most evil thing I've ever heard. Hollowizing people, mutating shinigami into hollows, creepy science experiments, using one's "daughter" as an experiment, that weird creepy impregnating Nemu incident, genocide of Quincies etc... --

No, no, Ukitake has shown that he is the true king of evil, by giving Ichigo a badge that functions almost identically to the ones that Hitsugaya and company had with them to seal their powers when they came to earth + a really crappy two-way spying device.

EVIL KING OF EVIL, JYUUSHIRO UKITAKE.

Watch that candy, Hitsugaya. YOUR KOI FISH WON'T HAVE A HAPPY HOME WITH UKITAKE, BYAKUYA.
peca_06: fucking madpeca_06 on November 23rd, 2011 12:22 am (UTC)
LOL yeah, the flower thingy restrictions for them to not use full force in the World of the living or could hurt the population that Renji, Matsumoto and Hitsu got while fighting the Arrancar. Evil, EVIL Ukitake :P . Ginjou is just so FULL OF SHIT >.>.
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riah_chan: Nanao ORLY?riah_chan on November 23rd, 2011 12:20 am (UTC)
Ukitake revelations! I am about 10X more interested in this story now!
peca_06peca_06 on November 23rd, 2011 12:26 am (UTC)
Pretty intense build up until Ichigo has enough and explodes in front of such mindfuckery. Very well done Sensei! Can't wait for next week's now o_O . I'm sure Urahara will shed some light on the matter and the whole truth will be in the open. Ishida and his ominous "The real bad thing will be if neither of those are the truth" ... Ichigo, kick Ginjou's ass!
Phoenix Hawk's Deep Corefmphoenixhawk on November 23rd, 2011 12:33 am (UTC)
Well, I have to say I did not see this one coming. I figured the badge was a tracking device, and a suppression device, but it has other uses. I wonder how it insta-kills people? Do I believe Ginjou? No. He's too full of shit to believe now. I think Ichigo's had enough of it too, but I expect Ginjou will somehow break out the exact same move. I wonder if his Hollow mask will be the same as Ichigo's.
Mekoumekou on November 23rd, 2011 12:34 am (UTC)
This is how I see it.

Everything he's said about the badge and what it's true purpose is for makes sense. I don't think that what Ginjou is saying is a lie, but it maybe be his own interpretion of the truth. He obviously has some kind of grudge against SS so he's taking the facts and interpreting them to make SS seem like they're the bad guys. Because in his eyes that's what they are.

If that same information was given to Ichigo by anyone else, like Ukitake himself, it might not be presented in the same way. But it's being presented in this way for a reason, and I for one can't wait to see what gets revealed from here on in. Whether SS and/or Ukitake are 'the real bad guys' or not, the speculation is really exciting!
xmylasia on November 23rd, 2011 12:52 am (UTC)
I hope Ichigo Bankai's the hell out of Ginjou in the next chapter.
I'm getting so tired of him and his (fail) mindfuckery. Excited to see what Urahara has to say though!
Running on Coffee and Schadenfreudearcadiasilver on November 23rd, 2011 12:55 am (UTC)
Pretty much just nodding along with everyone else here re: If Ginjou spins these facts any harder he's going to reverse the earth's rotation. Ginjou missed his life's calling of being a press coordinator.

Things that I do want to point out:

- This might explain what Rukia was talking about when Ichigo heard her though the badge. Working theory is that she was being briefed on Ginjou's past and she was rejecting the worry that Ichigo would do the same.

- Page Seven: Ichigo, did you actually learn a lesson from Aizen's and Tsukishima;s mindfuckery? Did you honestly finally not fall to someones (admittedly sloppy) mind games? Thank god, I suppose third time's the charm here.

- Page Eighteen: Noting that Rukia and Ikkaku are not in the panels here. Knowledge about the badge was probably restricted to the Captain/Vice-captain ranks at the time.
aryastarkxaryastarkx on November 23rd, 2011 02:33 am (UTC)
Thank goodness Rukia isn't included there. I cannot deal with anymore Ichigo-Rukia drama, Kubo.
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oh gallant piglet,aizome on November 23rd, 2011 02:00 am (UTC)
So the badge keeps his shinigami power under control in the living world. One word for that?

GOOD.

Remember what happened after Ichigo took a swipe at a Menos? And what would have happened if Ishida hadn't redirected all that crazy out-of-control energy? Yeah. GOOD.

Ginjou's obviously got a guilty conscience if he thinks Ukitake was conspiring to do terrible things to Ichigo by giving him the badge in the first place.
nehalenianehalenia on November 23rd, 2011 05:24 am (UTC)
Since Ginjou is a gold-plated self-centered bastard, I'll wager he thinks Ichigo will react the same way he did upon finding out about the badge: go rogue and turn against SS. He's a good manipulator, but I don't think he's as smart as he thinks he is.
(Anonymous) on November 23rd, 2011 02:28 am (UTC)
Sigh... of course the badge is some kind of device. It does detect nearby hollows after all, so it's somewhat like those cellphones shinigami use. And Ichigo being observed though the badge? Big deal. I think the SPY-BACTERIAS Mayuri put inside Ishida is more creepy.
oh gallant piglet,aizome on November 23rd, 2011 04:17 am (UTC)
Much agreed, anon. Much agreed.
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aryastarkx: kanayaaryastarkx on November 23rd, 2011 02:35 am (UTC)
I just want to comment on that cute colorspread (RUKIAAAA! YOUR PHONEEEEE! YOUR FACE!!!! JAKLDJAKLD) and dat caption. I appreciate them both.
カイロンスターchironstar on November 23rd, 2011 04:30 am (UTC)
I'm so glad Ishida is here. He's calling on Ginjou's bullshit and so am I. Ginjou's overexaggerating and twisting the facts to spin more lies. I bet the last panel is just Ichigo going bankai to shut Ginjou up.
Free Speech is not simply an Idea.cat_mcdougall on November 23rd, 2011 04:32 am (UTC)
Okay, like I said to a friend on AIM:

A few theories poking around my head -

1) Yes, the badge is a monitoring and suppression device. This is imminently practical and makes sense if you think about the fact that Ichigo is a taichou level shinigami and has bankai.
2) Taichous/fukutaichous are monitored and limited in the Mortal World, why wouldn't someone like Ichigo also be?
3) They gave the duty to Ukitake for several reasons:
- a) He's kind. Anyone he executed, it would be a swift, merciful death.
- b) He's not reactionary. If he went out to kill someone, it would need doing. See point a).

Now onto Ishida:

1) I wonder if he didn't have something to do with Ichigo getting his powers back. He lost his for a time and was bereft without them. Immediately after they were returned to him, he went into the fight in Hueco Mundo. He knows what Ichigo is going through right now and may be trying to get Ichigo to think rather than react.
2) I also wonder if perhaps he hasn't forgiven the shinigami (after all, he and Renji formed a bromance, and he made that dress for Rukia) but maybe understands that there might be a place for the Quincys and the shinigami in the world.
3) Perhaps his yelling at Ichigo is the beginning formation of another Isshin/Ryuuken relationship? Ryuuken genuinely seems to care not only for Uryuu, but also for Isshin. Uryuu might be maturing and seeing that all shinigami are not Kurotsuchi Mayuri.
tamzinconquistadora on November 23rd, 2011 04:34 am (UTC)
So. fucking. boring.

Wow. They were observing you the whole time Kurosaki Ichigo. AREN'T YOU SHOCKED AND OUTRAGED?! Fuck this noise. I'd go bankai too and kill this stupid fodder piece of shit. I'm so disappointed in this "revelation" that I want someone to fire Kubo.

"Ichigo, they're leaving you here to die!"

THIS DOESN'T EVEN MAKE ANY DAMN SENSE WHAT THE HELL IS HE TALKING ABOUT THEY JUST CAME TO SAVE HIM FROM YOU ARRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH

I need a fucking drink.
oh gallant piglet,: atsukoaizome on November 23rd, 2011 04:54 am (UTC)
D:

*makes you a drink or three*
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kohi_no_torakohi_no_tora on November 23rd, 2011 05:56 am (UTC)
Yeah, I'm going to go with my initial reaction. Ginjou is telling the truth but with a lot of negative spin.

Actually I'm going to go one step further and guess that this was the... if not good, least bad, option that was suggested by Ukitake as a compromise rather than just a) killing them outright (proposed by Yamamoto and Soi Fon) or b) handing them over to Mayuri (proposed by... Mayuri and no one else).

So let's hear it for Ukitake once again being the voice of reason and compassion in the Gotei 13.
♀*La Muerte Chiquita*♀: badass presidentla_kalaka on November 23rd, 2011 06:22 am (UTC)
I hope Ichigo can get his shit together and I loved Uryuu trying to analize all of Ginjou bullshit and not freak out, for a kid who got spying bacterias on his body, he really knows how to keep his shit together.

Although it looks like Ginjou got him with that: "shoot me and I'll just bat your arrows", man, the face Ishida made, aaaw ;_; my boy, I think you confirmed what he said to you.

ugh!
Cassiemizukagami on November 23rd, 2011 06:48 am (UTC)
Chapter was good, glad that things are indeed picking up.

I do have to say:

THANK YOU, KUBO FOR THE BEAUTIFUL RUKIA COLOR PAGE!!!!!

She looks like a doll! I love her phone skin! There's just too much love on one page, it makes me want to squee!
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on November 23rd, 2011 07:35 am (UTC)
Hee, I enjoyed all the fandom freak out during the spoilerfest. Evil!Ukitake indeed.

Wrote on BA: Insofar as monitoring Ichigo goes--HELL WHAT A GOOD IDEA. The boy has too much power, a hollow inside him, and HELL YES, anyone in SS would monitor such a wild card. I don't see anyone twirling a mustache just yet. I do see a door to an interesting backstory about to be opened.

*nudges it with foot* Open, open.

Wrote on Tumblr re Rukia CP (Geez, I have too many accounts too many places--I thought I said I was curtailing fandom activity...oops): I think the bunny phone is a tribute to Steve Jobs and reminds me of the Telephone spread (the whole “connections” theme in Bleach). Also the monitoring badge in this week’s chapter.

And to those ignorant fans w/a shipping agenda saying that editors write the sidetext—yes they do in the b/w manga when it’s summaries, descriptions and NEXT WEEK BLAH BLAH but Sensei writes the beautiful poetic text for the color pages. You can read the difference.

The text is very reminiscent of the farewell scene between Ichigo and Rukia which took place in the winter—as is Rukia’s expression. Really lovely expression—she looks so vulnerable. I like this CP of her way better than her Valentine’s CP where she looked glassy-eyed and ero.

More general observations from Twitter to my buds: This arc has suffered from a real lack of bare chests. I'm curious as hell to see what Ichigo's new ban kai looks like but like Neha, I'd be more than happy if the ban kai blows some clothes off Ishida.
Ginjou looks damn sexy with his hair all mussed up in these chapters. He sure hasn't seemed to care to much about his husbando bleeding on the ground much but I have a feeling all the FBs will survive and that the bookmark will be broken some other way? If I'm wrong I'm wrong. I just think Tsuki will live now and I'm SO STILL ROOTING FOR JACKIE.

Yes, I'm still hung up on the FBs surviving even while we've got promise of plot development and secrets to be revealed and all that stuff that makes fandom slobber. Even as I complain about there being too many characters in Bleach I can't help but fall in love with one more here and there....

Edited at 2011-11-23 07:45 am (UTC)
sleepwalkersleepwalkerrrr on November 23rd, 2011 05:18 pm (UTC)
The text is very reminiscent of the farewell scene between Ichigo and Rukia which took place in the winter—as is Rukia’s expression. Really lovely expression—she looks so vulnerable. I like this CP of her way better than her Valentine’s CP where she looked glassy-eyed and ero.

THIS, I was wondering doesn't anyone pick this when I read the comments all over briefly. My shippiness sense screamed "farewell scene from Ichigo's POV" when I read that, cause it deliberately talks about Rukia and some "that day" which fits perfectly.
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chiremaechiremae on November 23rd, 2011 07:36 am (UTC)
About to read the chapter -- the Rukia spread is pure LOVE, she's so gorgeous!! love the phoen. Anyway, did anyone take note of the tittle -- beLIEve -- with LIE in caps? A hint perhaps?
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on November 23rd, 2011 07:38 am (UTC)

Yep. Saw that right away. It's actually a old chapter title from Zombie Powder.
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The Main Gauche of Enlightenment: Scanty DAT ASSvelvetsword on November 23rd, 2011 12:58 pm (UTC)
I'm okay with this
Put a monitoring/supressing device on a kid with a captain-class reiatsu, a hyper bankai, an an insane Hollow mode? A guy who is not the brightest tool in the shed, has a healthy dose of bloodlust, has been known to lose his shit and stab/throw his allies, and is gullible as all fuck? Why would Ukitake NOT do this??

It makes literally NO sense for SS to just throw their hands up and say 'Welp kid, you're basically a Lovecraftian horror with stupidly OP powers but it's okay, we're going to let you run around just dumping reiatsu all over the goddamn place because you're just so plucky and lovable and totally not prone to psychotic episodes at all'.

Rukia looks like she's waiting for a date in the color pic. And the best part is that the picture actually has a backround.
ruinin fuckin' everythingallelujah on November 23rd, 2011 01:20 pm (UTC)
ahahahaha! I am deeply happy with this XD Everyone feels guilty, and you know of course more evil has been done, but Ichigo trusted them and they betrayed him, period. He would more than likely have accepted being restrained, but lol. Lol soul society.
jpblackjpblack on November 23rd, 2011 04:21 pm (UTC)
Rukia is in Ukitake's division. This has somehow got to tie into Aizen's Hogyoku scam to hone Ichigo. I think it's be pretty dumb for him to be working with Aizen ALL ALONG, but if Kubo is really trying to portray him as antagonist, that can't just be a coincidence. We've got to be getting close to some revelation about the Royal Guard.
marvellous monster: princessfikuz on November 23rd, 2011 06:23 pm (UTC)
It's always the the quiet ones, huh?
ugly_toysugly_toys on November 23rd, 2011 08:34 pm (UTC)
Asides from Evil!Ukitake I enjoyed Urahara chin stubble close-up :D Is it bad that I find Ginjou's drama more funny than dramatic? Ichigo PLEASE smack him one and move on to the next arc...
One other thing: Ichigo had the power to fight on par with Aizen who was supposedly the pinnacle of power in the Bleach world. and now Ginjou and the Emo Squad are giving him trouble? Where is his power at right now? Shouldn't Ichigo be able to slap Ginjou into the next century without any trouble? Ah well...
(Anonymous) on November 23rd, 2011 08:50 pm (UTC)
Kid is out of practice with the zanjutsu.
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(Anonymous) on November 23rd, 2011 08:43 pm (UTC)
When I saw the spoilers, I was shocked; how could Ukitake be the villain? This makes much more sense.