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06 July 2011 @ 11:30 am
Bleach 455 is Out  
Bleach 455 is out on MangaReader.

ETA: MangaStream's version is up.





Ichigo attempts to attack Tsukishima, but Ginjou holds him back. In theory, it sounds like good, though rather generic, advice - "don't attack him without thinking" - but given Ginjou's skeeviness... Perhaps Ginjou wants to get Ichigo inside the mansion first to see his brainwashed friends, which Ginjou knows would push Ichigo over the edge even more. Besides that, Tsukishima had plenty of opportunity earlier to cut Ichigo; why would he start now? (Unless Ginjou means that he thinks Tsukishima can cut anything, so a cut would be physically lethal, which is not information that he's shared with Ichigo.)

I like how Tsukishima points out that he wouldn't set traps in the creepy old mansion - he'd have set traps in the creepy forest that Yukio led Ichigo and Ginjou through.

Inside is... Ichigo's surprise party with all of Ichigo's brainwashed family and friends! Hurray. Given that this chapter is being released in Japan during the week of Ichigo's birthday, this is a pretty fucked up "birthday" party from Kubo.

Ichigo runs away again, though this time he at least thinks that he can't kill Tsukishima with his friends in the way. What's startling is that Ichigo really thinks that he wants to kill Tsukishima. I know he said it last chapter, and that was screwed up, but to have him repeat it again, Ichigo-who-doesn't-kill-his-enemies, shows just how psychologically messed up Ichigo is. Before it was an idea; now it's an actual goal.

The other Fullbringers are upstairs. Yay, Jackie's okay! Though apparently brainwashed, or working with Tsukishima, or whatever.

Ginjou seems to contradict his earlier warning of "don't attack without thinking" by now encouraging Ichigo to go all out against Tsukishima. "It's okay, now that the stairs are gone and there's no way for you to escape since you're surrounded and on the second floor! And wasn't it nice, seeing all your brainwashed friends earlier telling you to apologize?!" And what will you be doing, Ginjou, while Ichigo attacks Tsukishima?

Ichigo powers up, does a Spider-man pose on the wall, and slices off Tsukishima's arm. Ichigo is not holding back at all, putting into practice his desire to kill Tsukishima. Though he reiterates his goal, a close-up of his face, however, shows that instead of a strong and determined look, there's a determined look with the "I'm so mentally fucked up" dark eye rings (which are used on Ichigo in every panel in this chapter).

Chad and Inoue then make a non-surprising appearance to protect Tsukishima, thus confirming the success of "Operation: Brainwash All of Ichigo's Nakama (Except Mayyyyybe Ishida!)". Inoue, of course, will restore Tsukishima's arm.


 
 
 
njxaxsonnjxaxson on July 6th, 2011 03:39 pm (UTC)
Wow, Ichigo really goes dark here. I find that a very sad fate for him. The ending is even sadder - Kubo is going full-court press here. Ichigo seems to have been totally turned on his head.

To some extent, I don't even really know where to begin with this.
oh gallant piglet,: ouchaizome on July 6th, 2011 03:47 pm (UTC)
I will say this much: Tsukishima is no longer boring to me. If he can turn Karin, Yuzu, Tatsuki, AND Chad and Orihime against Ichigo, that's some pretty scary power. Even Aizen didn't creep me out this much.

Now cue the "Rescue Ichigo" arc. Hurry up Isshin, Urahara, and/or Ishida and Rukiaaaaaaaa.
Eva: Annoyed [Pokemon]animeangel4eva on July 6th, 2011 03:56 pm (UTC)
+1
_debbiechan_: party by sxylilwitch_debbiechan_ on July 6th, 2011 03:49 pm (UTC)

Tsukishima obviously let himself be cut on purpose so Hime could heal him. And Chad who would fight anyone for Ichigo attacking Ichigo.

What a double cross.

Well things are going as I expected.

Happy birthday Ichigo. That's some SWELL AND CREEPY BIRTHDAY PARTY SENSEI THREW FOR YOU THERE.

qwirky on July 6th, 2011 06:55 pm (UTC)
*throws confetti for Ichigo's creepy surprise birthday party in the old mansion in the woods with the zombies*

Yeah, I thought Tsukishima seemed genuinely surprised by Ichigo's speed, but losing an arm? Pshaw. Who cares when you have Inoue there to patch you up (though it must still hurt :x).

Chad ;__;
 Lady Camille Catherine Cecily Lloyd-George X: Thinkingskilly_n_duff on July 6th, 2011 03:52 pm (UTC)
-Worst Birthday Party Ever.

-Deicide went all the way up to 23--how long will this "End of Bond" arc last?!

-And is it the end of Ichigo's bonds with his friends or is it (hopefully) the end of Tsukishima's Bond on everyone?

-I want Rukia back. More then ever. ESPECIALLY because I'm absolutely in love with the idea that Tsuki's powers only work on humans.
kaibasgirl on July 7th, 2011 12:43 am (UTC)
but if it doesn't, imagine what it'll do to Ichigo if even RUKIA gets taken in by him =\
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Eva: GAME OVER [Haruka]animeangel4eva on July 6th, 2011 03:56 pm (UTC)
Dude I had I like a zillion chills run down my spine, this is SO CREEPY...
AND I'M LOVING IT.
JUST OMG ICHIGO, OMFG, YOU ACTUALLY SLICED HIS ARM- WTF MAN, I DIDN'T THINK YOU HAD IT IN YOU UNTIL I REALIZED YOU WERE DEAD SERIOUS ABOUT KILLING HIM, BUT HOLY FUCK, ICHIGOOOO DON'T LOSE YOUR HUMANITY OVER A BASTARD WHO'S MANIPULATING EVERYONE!!! ;A;

I've been thinking recently, Zaraki would probably be THRILLED to see Ichigo in this state. LMAO!
♀*La Muerte Chiquita*♀: epic shitla_kalaka on July 6th, 2011 04:34 pm (UTC)
you can bet on that, and add to it that Kenpachi would ask for a one on one *_*

Man I was so shocked when I saw Ichigo cut Tsuki's arm O.o
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廚二病chuuni on July 6th, 2011 03:56 pm (UTC)
Bleach continues to be a psychological horror manga.

http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/455/16
Kubo can you not be a little more creative? I swear this is the 4089403848th time we've seen the whole I'M RIGHT BEHIND YOU scene throughout Bleach.
Vayshti: pic#104677201vayshti on July 6th, 2011 04:06 pm (UTC)
♫ Spidermaaaan, Spidermaaaan. Does whatevs a shpider caaaaan. ♫

I am liking the dark horror tone - even the heavy Ichi eyes.
Creepy closed eyed greeting of pod-friends is creepy.
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dvaB..aka..Yumicode_mari on July 6th, 2011 03:58 pm (UTC)
A sad fate it is. I hope Isshin and Kisuke will get more attention in the next chapter then a few steps, and will rescue Ichigo before he is forced to commit a crime. Cause it's one thing when you kill someone who's already been dead, but when it's a human.. oh no, Sensei, the hell are you doing?

Oh, and it's not Power Rangers, it's Spiderman /head-desk/
Issues: Ichigo-Can't take the fight....lovely_masoka on July 6th, 2011 04:01 pm (UTC)
Ichigo )8
brightelephonebrightelephone on July 6th, 2011 04:02 pm (UTC)
Poor Ichigo. This is literally one of the worst things that could happen to him. Ichigo's all about saving his friends. Seeing them all like this is probably worse for him than any kind of physical pain. Tsukishima is SUCH A CREEP (but he's still an interesting villain!).
Running on Coffee and Schadenfreudearcadiasilver on July 6th, 2011 04:13 pm (UTC)
"HEEL, BOY."

"SIC "EM, ICHIGO!"

...Genjou is like Ichigo's pokemon trainer here.
♀*La Muerte Chiquita*♀la_kalaka on July 6th, 2011 04:37 pm (UTC)
though the same x_D
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jpblackjpblack on July 6th, 2011 04:15 pm (UTC)
I think you're reading too much into Ichigo's eyes on page 18, lol. He seems pretty determined. There's no arguing he's messed up, but he knows it's this way because of the guy right in front of him. No one's screwed with him as direct as Tsukishima before.

Chapters. need. more. stuffage. Before I could utter my seventh "holy shit" it was over.
jpblackjpblack on July 6th, 2011 04:19 pm (UTC)
Oh, and, uh, who's mouth is that? The one that got the closeups? Were they even the same person? I thiiiiiink it was Yuzu.
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aryastarkx: the good wife 1aryastarkx on July 6th, 2011 04:43 pm (UTC)
if mysterygami doesn't end up being who i hope it is...i will be so pissed, since this wait has been SO painful.
RUKIA COME BACK I MISS YOU

i don't think they'll be revealed any time soon though, since ichigo vs friends will probably be drawn out. (i hope it won't)
nehalenia: ichigo pensivenehalenia on July 6th, 2011 04:55 pm (UTC)
Wow, fast chapter is fast! At first I thought the way Chad busted in was a bit ambiguous, but no, they're standing with Tsukishima and facing Ichigo, and I just noticed that Inoue had already released 2 of her rikka. (I thought they were flying rubble from their entrance at first.) Since there are 2 rikka out, I'm sure the first thing we'll see next chapter is Inoue healing Tsuki's arm.

Next chapter promises to be angsty with Ichigo facing his nakama. I call Ishida showing up, probably at the end of next chapter. Entrance might be ambiguous to make us question if he's brainwashed or not (I say not).

I know there have been murmurs about Kubo replaying the Dome scenario in this. I was hopeful but skeptical -- sooo not the same scenario, right? -- but Ichigo taking off Tsuki's arm like that does remind me of how upset Dome!Ichigo was to find out he'd maimed Ulquiorra and how he wanted to cut off his own limbs to even the fight. Ichigo has now lost so much of himself that he actually wants to kill.

Looking back, I think this whole arc has been about Ichigo losing everything that makes him "Ichigo", and it started with losing Rukia. He lied to himself that he was okay, but then Ishida getting cut up proved that he really didn't have the power to protect any longer. Now Tsukishima has taken away his family, his friends, even his new allies. Ichigo doesn't know who or what he is any longer and is so desperate to get his identity back that he's willing to kill another human being.

While I did dislike the training part of this arc, these last few chapters are redeeming the Lost Agent arc for me and I can't wait to see what happens next. (Ichigo, are you gonna stab Ishdia again because you think he's against you? Or will he actually reach you this time? My inner IchiIshi fangirl is dying to see what happens when Ishida shows up.)
qwirky on July 6th, 2011 06:41 pm (UTC)
Looking back, I think this whole arc has been about Ichigo losing everything that makes him "Ichigo", and it started with losing Rukia. He lied to himself that he was okay, but then Ishida getting cut up proved that he really didn't have the power to protect any longer. Now Tsukishima has taken away his family, his friends, even his new allies. Ichigo doesn't know who or what he is any longer and is so desperate to get his identity back that he's willing to kill another human being.
I like this analysis. Ichigo. ;____; ;________________;
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DAlcotraz on July 6th, 2011 05:12 pm (UTC)
Here's the thing. It took us, the readers/watchers years to get through the Aizen Arc, but in Bleach time, it was one consecutive fight after another. At the most, he spent a few days in Hueco Mundo. Not really sure since there's really no sun/moon thing there. So he gets killed like twice in a short time, fights with Grimmy Reaper again, almost gets killed by Octopussy like RIGHT after, and then has to face off against Ulquiorra again, right after, and dies, only to be resurrected by his friend to go on a rampage and almost kill one of his own buddies.

Then he comes out from there, finds out his dad is a Shinigami, finds out he's "human and " becomes the strongest dude on the planet, and loses all his hard earned power all in one day.

Fast forward 18 months, his friends most likely still have no idea exactly what happened to him, he misses his power, and suddenly psycho-dude is messing with his life. Not to mention the Tatsuki scene..... /Murder.

Personally I can see why he's on a rampage :D
(Anonymous) on July 6th, 2011 08:34 pm (UTC)
I understood your post until you decided to bring up Tatsuki out of nowhere.

She had no singular involvment in Ichigo's current mental state, and it was the fact of everything that happened to everyone that sent Ichigo over the deep end emotionally.

I really don't like it when people seem to give emphasis on one particular person's reaction when it is the group as a whole that has the effect.

So tell me, what was it that you perceived in that scene that holds any stand-alone significance?
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산토끼 × san-toki: 『g』 → ginpachi sensei is unamusedsan_toki on July 6th, 2011 05:28 pm (UTC)
Somethings just too off about the whole thing. Even if Shuu messed up Orihime and Sado's memory, they would never guard someone from Ichigo. I think they would try to separate them or restrain Ichigo...I mean, I just find it odd they would power up to defend Tsuki even if they were brainwashed.

1) When Ichigo was rushing towards Tsuki, I kinda thought they were going to give each other a Friendly-Friend Rainbow Monkey Goodbye Hug only Ginjo ruined it. Like always.

2) I feel bad for the guests at Ichigo's birthday party. Why did you run away from your party? Are birthdays too mainstream for you Ichigo?

3) I think Ishida is in a corner sulking and being emo because he wasn't invited. Quincy kids are always picked last for dodgeball, it goes without saying.
qwirky on July 6th, 2011 06:25 pm (UTC)
To be fair, Shuu-chan's missing an arm. They might think they have to protect him. Ichigo looks pretty crazy, and he's not acting like how he normally would. Ichigo + his unpredictable new powers = wary defensiveness seems like a legitimate response. Part of the issue is we don't know exactly how Tsukishima's power works yet.

Hipster Ichigo shuns birthday parties :(
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(Anonymous) on July 6th, 2011 05:29 pm (UTC)
Tiny little detail here. In Aizen arc he goes straight for the kill. In cold blood. Aizen was plotshilded by KT, but it was clearly murder attempt.
And... about previous title. "Sheathebreaker". Now it kinda reminds me of this:
http://www.mangareader.net/94-674-13/bleach/chapter-220.html
qwirky on July 6th, 2011 06:39 pm (UTC)
I don't equate "killing" with "murder." They're not always the same thing. I think Ichigo probably intended to kill Aizen (at least the second time, Deicide arc), but that was because it was a war and he had to stop Aizen from killing countless others. IMO, that's not murder. Ichigo also never said or even thought: I want to kill Aizen or I am here to kill Aizen. Killing is something Ichigo will probably have to eventually do, but he will do it on his own terms when he's fully accepted that he has no other reasonable choice; I don't think it'll ever be something he really wants or is proud of especially since he's gone out of his way to not kill his enemies when possible.

The whole situation with Tsukishima is not exactly murder IMO but probably more akin to that than the Aizen situation. Tsukishima's done shitty stuff, obviously, and turning his family and friends into zombies, not to mention nearly killing Ishida, is bad-guy stuff, but Ichigo has been flat-out told that there's no guarantee killing Tsukishima will accomplish anything or save his friends. It's something Ichigo has "decided" upon when he's not in his right mind - he's desperate, confused, fearful, stressed out, freaked out, etc. - and Ginjou's encouraging him on that decision (while keeping his own hands lily-white clean). Not to mention Tsukishima is a human, not a shinigami or a hollow. Granted, this is not stuff you can go to the police about, but it still involves a human (with supernatural powers), for whatever that's worth.
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erisalia on July 6th, 2011 05:40 pm (UTC)
Sorry but where is Ginjou helping Ichigo fight Tsuki in that last part of the chapter. He didn't help him in the least and left Ichigo to fight Tsuki ONLY when Tsuki had the other fullbringers present. He did not allow Ichigo to attack Tsuki when he was unarmed ironically. He waited till Tsuki had the other fullbringers and then told Ichigo to go all out after he had just gave him a line of BS about holding back.
qwirky on July 6th, 2011 06:54 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I think it's convenient he said "No no, not in the open forest where one can easily run away...!" and only, "Yes yes!" after Ichigo saw all his brainwashed friends and only after he was upstairs trapped with the other Fullbringers (and Inoue and Chad). Then it's "You go for it, Ichigo! I'll just... hang back here, looking cool and stuff."
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darkslover: Seras shadow handdarkslover on July 6th, 2011 06:05 pm (UTC)
HOKAY, BLEACH IS BACK INTO THE GOTHIC POE AREA.

And I'm loving it.

All the panels with his friends and family repeating "Ichigo", "Apologize", freaked me out. 0.0;; "Who is the crazy one here?" This is one HELL of a birthday for poor Strawberry.

I think this FB armor looks a little better without the boots and angled... but I still think it's "meh".

WOW, ICHIGO, WHAT IS THIS, IS THIS REALLY YOU????

He took Tsukishima's hand with just one sweep! Strawberry has really left the chocolate behind! (And I have really gotten a sweet tooth with this phrase! XD)

"A sad fate", indeed. PAPASAKI! URAHARA! SHINIGAMI X!! HURRY UP!!!

That chapter was wow... but it left me hanging. MOAR. DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!

I loved it.
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lorkylorklorkylork on July 6th, 2011 07:40 pm (UTC)
Happy birthday, Ichigo; have a straitjacket.

Weird foreboding title...bizarre chapter...GET AWAY FROM ICHIGO, GINJOU!

Poor Ichigo is a mess...is this the new Bleach?

I need Ishida to appear now, look awesome and rescue everyone. Perhaps he can lift the brainwash off Orihime with a kiss...okies, I am dreaming but seriously, we need a hero right now and it is not Ichigo.

Kubo-san, how long is it going to take Urahara and Isshin to walk from the shop to this place? Please let it not take them 5 chapters or the length of time it took for the vaizards too appear in FKT. Thank you.

Where is Kon?
nehalenia: chad interp dancenehalenia on July 6th, 2011 09:30 pm (UTC)
Hmm, I doubt Ishida will break the spell over Orihime with a kiss, but when she first thought of Tsuki as a "friend", she pulled herself out of it by remembering that he was the guy who attacked Ishida. Maybe Ishida coming in and reminding her and Chad that Tsuki nearly killed him might have a similar effect and at least weaken their connection with Tsuki?
The Main Gauche of Enlightenment: Scanty is displeased (with guns)velvetsword on July 6th, 2011 08:01 pm (UTC)
please forgive my bad typing, i fubar'd my keyboard
well, orihime will have that arm strapped back on in a jiffy.

also i can see orihime and chad stepping in to defend tsukishima on the pretense that ichigo is out of his right mind and attacking a 'friendly' target for no good reason. that would explain their pushing back against ichigo without being made antagonistic towards him. they wouldn't sit back and let ichigo kill someone they perceive as a innocent-- and their 'bro'-- without trying to stop him.

i gotta admit i made the 'oh snap' face when orihime appeared there with chad, though. biz markie, his mouth agape.
Tora: 002 - Busy busyflowingstars on July 6th, 2011 08:28 pm (UTC)
Not much to add to what has been said but regarding the "GO ALL OUT NOW THAT YOU CAN'T ESCAPE FROM SECOND FLOOR" all my wishful mind can think is... Chad attacked Ichigo from behind, more specifically from behind a glass, or that was some weird mirror and some weird perspective effect. Thing is, if Chad attacked through a glass... Then it probably was a window, which is now broken and wide open. In the rare case that Chad and Inoue still are allies and not brainwashed zombies, Chad just opened a route for Ichigo to escape. How to get crazy-Ichigo through that escape route when he's so set on killing Tsukihima? As they say, "do it yourself" aka Chad fighting Ichigo to try to get him out through there. Meanwhile Inoue keeps the act of brainwashed girl/heals Tsukihima because she knows the real and sane Ichigo wouldn't like what he just did and it may be a way to avoid guilty trips later on.

Of course, honestly I doubt any of this will happen, but it would be nice. At any rate one thing is sure, unless that glass was a mirror, there's an escape/entrance route to the fighting scene without the need of the stairs now. WHERE'S THE CHIVALRY??
和山一朗: white noiseburn1ngcha0s on July 6th, 2011 09:14 pm (UTC)
Only an arm? Like Inoue won't be fixing that in a jiffy. If he really had wanted Tsukishima dead asap, he should have gone straight for the neck. Or, that's what I would've done... Sure, he's messed up in the head and the "surprise" party ("happy b-day", Berry, really >.>) was nothing but a f-ed up torture chamber but bringing Inoue and Chad side with and to protect TSUKISHIMA(!!!)? I feel for the poor guy; he's gonna flip his shit anytime now to no return.
和山一朗burn1ngcha0s on July 6th, 2011 09:15 pm (UTC)
P.S. Wutcha doin' there in the shadows, behind Ichigo's back, Ginjou, hmm?
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rolladice on July 6th, 2011 09:18 pm (UTC)
I'd dearly love to know what is going through Ichigo's mind right now. All I'm getting from his facial expressions is that there are no thoughts, just "DAIDFKJGBDKFJGTSUKISHIMAMUSTDIENSDKLSJASDF" The way he's so focused on killing Tsukishima reminds me of a machine O_O

I don't think it'll happen, but I'd love to see Ichigo clash with Chad and Inoue - that's something I thought would never be seen on paper =D I think it's clever for Kubo to use those particular two both up against Ichigo at once, imo they're the nakama that concern themselves with Ichigo the most, the ones who have always seemed most loyal to Ichigo. Oh, the drama!
qwirky on July 6th, 2011 09:44 pm (UTC)
I think it's clever for Kubo to use those particular two both up against Ichigo at once, imo they're the nakama that concern themselves with Ichigo the most, the ones who have always seemed most loyal to Ichigo.
I very much disagree with this. I think you're confusing "letting Ichigo walk all over them" with being "loyal."

Inoue and Chad, to some degree, basically prostrate themselves for Ichigo. Inoue lets Ichigo do whatever he wants, even if she doesn't agree with it or even if it goes counter to her own feelings. Chad does a lot for Ichigo, but because he doesn't always challenge Ichigo, he doesn't always get Ichigo's recognition.

Rukia, Ishida, and Renji challenge Ichigo and don't put up with his crap. They call him out on his BS. Just because they don't let Ichigo have his way, that doesn't mean they aren't the most loyal to him or that they don't have his best interests at heart. To me, Ishida standing up to IchiThing and trying to stop him from slaughtering Ulquiorra was one of the strongest moments of true loyalty, friendship, and understanding in the series.

Yes, it's true Inoue and Chad are the ones who are least likely to stand up and face Ichigo or to call him out when he's in the wrong, but I would not mistake those character traits for being "most loyal to Ichigo." I do agree that it's probably most shocking for Ichigo and for the readers; as Debbie said upthread, Chad's the one who's always willing to fight for Ichigo, and now he's fighting against him. Inoue, of course, is Inoue with her feelings for "Kurosaki-kun". And, I almost forgot, Inoue already gave Ichigo her "Sado-kun and I trained hard so we wouldn't be a burden on you anymore" speech from a few chapters ago. I think that's probably what you meant, just I take issue with, again, all of that meaning "they're the most loyal."

Edited at 2011-07-06 09:54 pm (UTC)
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サラ・: Ichigo and Orihime Mangapixyteri on July 6th, 2011 11:57 pm (UTC)
I just can't see Chad and Orihime really being brainwashed when they clearly knew about Tsukis power....or rather, I don't want to believe it, especially orihime with all her love for ichigo. Tsuki...the moon eh? Fitting name kubo...

I'm really hoping Chad and Hime are faking this to assist Ichigo...and help him at the perfect time. I just don't want it to be another "hehe rukia to the rescue hehe rukia and ichigo are in love hehe" scene. I want orihime to show her stuff and show the depth of her feelings.

Psycho! Ichigo does worry me...I'm wondering where Hichigo is. Hm.
bobateababy16bobateababy16 on July 7th, 2011 01:19 am (UTC)
I just don't want it to be another "hehe rukia to the rescue hehe rukia and ichigo are in love hehe" scene. I want orihime to show her stuff and show the depth of her feelings.


...err okay.Cause that is what always happens.Lol. The depth of Orihime feelings,I honestly think she doesn't understand Ichigo to have that deep of feelings for him.To each his own though.
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