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20 June 2011 @ 09:26 am
Dumb Poll and many other little Bleach thingies  

I forgot to show you this a while back. Kubo-sensei drew this for Jump!Bang, the television show. It took me a while to figure out what it was.








Also, this weekend I started the Kenpachi/Unohana fic for charity but got distracted listening to Lady Gaga and drew this instead of finishing the fic: http://debbiechan.deviantart.com/#/d3jbqty

OH! I got another Ishida doll! Here he is--he was a commission by a wonderful artist in Germany who does crochet work. I've really haven't seen anything like her stuff. She did a great IchiIshi pair and I asked her for a duplicate of the Ishida doll: http://yuki87.deviantart.com/art/Comission-Uryu-Ishida-211407952

If you want to see something scary, here is my new Ishida doll among my OTHER Ishida dolls. To be fair, I didn't buy all these so it's not like I'm robbing the childrens' trust funds. Most of these were gifts:



ALL MY URYUUS





Okey dokey, have a dumb poll:

Poll #1753768 Next Time on Bleach

Next time on Bleach we'll discover ...

absolutely nothing about the mysterygami
122(24.7%)
that Ichigo's memory didn't get an upgrade with Fullbring and we'll have to watch him try to remember Tsukishima from Grandpa Rin's funeral for SEVEN PAGES.
43(8.7%)
Bookman is such BAD!CREEPY for stabbing Yuzu that Ichigo loses it and we get a swordfight in the living room before any relevant information about anything can be revealed. Special treat: Tsukishima gets to snark about Ichigo's body armor.
38(7.7%)
Karin was in the kitchen so Tsukishima really IS related to the Kurosakis... and he's related to Orihime ... everyone's related ... Bleach is a hillbilly town.
31(6.3%)
Ginjou was the one who killed the Shinigami representative, or so says Tsukishima in some elaborate explanation to make Ichigo get SO CONFUSED
70(14.2%)
Grandpa Rin is related to Rin Rin, the filler chicken of the anime
19(3.9%)
Ishida was outside the Kurosaki house the whole time but waiting for just the right moment to make his grand entrance
44(8.9%)
Karin's in the kitchen with Shi Shi .... there will be unprecedented bonding over food
27(5.5%)
hell, the mysterygami will be revealed just because really everyone is so over it by now it's the perfect time
26(5.3%)
Urahara is still putting things into his secret brew and we'll see another mysterygami body part.. er, maybe an elbow
73(14.8%)



And something else sort of interesting from Sensei's twitter that I was reluctant to post because he was rather vague and I thought there might be over-interpretation. What I gathered from the tweets was that Sensei was having ... uh .. a kinda artistic late night pondering and state of defiance over something. When questioned by fans "you're not talking about Bleach are you?" he claimed to be talking about music, lol, but said that his opinions about manga were the same. And he said that he's just trying to sort out his thoughts on Twitter and to read his thoughts with that in mind.




translation by mezzo_marinaio :

受け手としては、自分の価値観を疑えなくなったら終わり。作り手としては、自分の価値観を信じられなくなったら終わり。でも、逆の方が多分楽にやっていける。

As a listener, if I can't call into question my own values it's the end. As a creator, if I can't believe in my own values it's the end. But maybe doing the opposite would work as well.

俺が言ってるのは「嫌いだ」って感覚を疑わなきゃいけない、ってこと。自分の所属してる社会や、自分が社会だと信じてるコミュニティの多数意見に擦り寄って、外から見える自分の価値を上げようとしていないか。その否定は本当に自分の中から出た否定なのかを自身で精査しなければいけない、ってこと。

What I’m saying is that I must call into question my feelings of “I hate this”. Snuggling up to the majority opinion of a community that believes society to be comprised only of themselves and their associations, and not even trying to make my worth as seen by others increase in value … what I mean is that I must do a careful examination, to find out whether this denial is really a denial that comes from inside myself.


See, told you it was vague. But I think it's important to know that Sensei is thinking about art a lot. I came across a quote of his just today that reminded me that Kubo Tite is a real artist. I know I'm often accused of overthinking Bleach, "just a comic book" but Sensei wrote on the inside flap of the first volume of Zombie Powder:

"The theme is fighting. Sitting there and just reading it without thinking is fine. But if you ever feel like it please try to use your mind as you read."
 
 
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hinodeh: Rirukahinodeh on June 20th, 2011 03:16 pm (UTC)
So sensei is in denial about something/dislikes something, but he wonders if he is right for feeling that way, or not. The whole snuggling up to the masses thing, though... Eh, the first part I get, but the second part is not quit clear to me. Either way, it's interesting. Thank you for posting it!

The Jump Bang pic is Ichigo being swallowed by a... splash of black paint? I keep thinking that the shape of it is supposed to resemble something, but so far I got nothing.

As to the poll, don't expect mysterygami, wouldn't put it past KT to have Tsukishima be really related to Ichigo, just as I wouldn't put it past him that there will be another fight between Ichigo and Tsuki without us kearning anything new.

That being said, the set up does so far does suggest that Tsukishima wants to talk, and him denying killling the shinigami and placing the blame on Ginjou is a pretty good prediction. Unless it was just about Tsuki being unable to locate Ichigo, so he stayed at his house figuring that sooner or later Ichigo was bound to show up there.
_debbiechan_: COMMUNICATION_debbiechan_ on June 20th, 2011 03:30 pm (UTC)

I dunno. I may be really off the mark but it sounds to me like criticism of his work is getting to Sensei--I don't think this is a bad thing. Every artist has to question whether or not he's writing from an internal set of standards or for an audience's expected set of standards (maybe this is what he means by "values?") I believe that art is a communication between both, but eh, every artist is super sensitive about that communication, especially when it's broken.

Phones tie you to me, etc.
The Main Gauche of Enlightenment: Kneesocks is pissed (stairs)velvetsword on June 20th, 2011 03:24 pm (UTC)
"The theme is fighting. Sitting there and just reading it without thinking is fine. But if you ever feel like it please try to use your mind as you read."

The hypocrisy of this after the last two years of Bleach is not lost on me.

Also, I understand the feeling of not wanting to conform to the masses, sheeple etc, but sometimes things are unpopular because they suck, and not because someone is a misunderstood artiste. Not every opinion that I disagree with or find insane is the result of the hoi polloi's hive mind. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
_debbiechan_: ORIHIME TONGUE_debbiechan_ on June 20th, 2011 03:31 pm (UTC)

And sometimes a hot dog is a really bad joke. XD
(no subject) - spartydragon on June 20th, 2011 05:49 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Grenatescarboucle on June 20th, 2011 03:29 pm (UTC)
I checked all the boxes X'D
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on June 20th, 2011 03:33 pm (UTC)

Well, you're rarely wrong so what if everything comes true. O_O You were on a losing streak for the first time in years predicting this arc though so ... I wonder what that means....
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dark_countess_bdark_countess_b on June 20th, 2011 03:53 pm (UTC)
I put in my vote that Bleach is secretly a hillbilly town.


Therefore, as yo regarding the image it looks like Ichigo's being swallowed up by his fullbring powers only to become Skeletor in disguise. I wonder if Ichigo glows in the dark like the Skeletor action figure did.
peca_06: FUFUFUpeca_06 on June 20th, 2011 04:41 pm (UTC)
"Ichigo glows in the dark like the Skeletor action figure did."
ONG, THE HORROR! LOLOLOLOLOLMAO! XD
peca_06: Ichigo eyepeca_06 on June 20th, 2011 04:38 pm (UTC)
"The theme is fighting. Sitting there and just reading it without thinking is fine. But if you ever feel like it please try to use your mind as you read."
I own Zombie P <3. That is definitely one of my favorite lines of his and why we end up analyzing things so much XD. He does put a lot of thought behind his works and things are not shallow and one layered.

That is really vague on his twitter, specially that second paragraph... I wonder what he meant exactly. Don't want to speculate too much on that one :P . I guess Ichigo is not the only one in denial XDDDD
Since Sensei exploded back towards some fans a while back, as he was fed up with some comments, stopped faving some things and his popularity slipping, it made me feel like all that constant crap was really getting to him.

He does listen to his fans. But, perhaps has to find a perfect balance where he is true to himself and also like he said "question his own values", as he is not perfect and maybe something is wrong and has to admit it is and not close himself into something and not be open minded?. I think re-evaluating your work is normal for any artist and maybe he feels is time to do so... Again, but in a deeper way?

As far as that drawing, man! it feels like Kubo is getting in a darker and darker place. He is very NOIR lately, when he is not drawing moe Orihime-Riruka spreads XDD. It looks to me as if Ichigo's shoulder/arm is exploding into something like reiatsu (or blood, I can't tell the difference ) and then it is bleeding down to form the words Jump!Bang. At least it looks like that to me.

I wanted to check on all the options of the poll, I loved all the answers (maybe not the obvious conflicting ones) XDDDD. Shi shi should be drinking tea in the kitchen with Karin lmao and eating Orihime hand me down bread XDDDDDDDD <333



lilbrokendollylilbrokendolly on June 20th, 2011 04:46 pm (UTC)
I can't see your pic of all your Ishida dolls!!! *cry* Being a fellow doll collector, I was really excited about it, but all I see is "ALL MY URYUUS".
_debbiechan_: Ishida and Miriam_debbiechan_ on June 20th, 2011 05:00 pm (UTC)

It wasn't showing up for some reason so I went back and re-entered it. Can you see it now? I do think I left out a couple Gashapons. XD I see them on my desk right now.
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Adam Eppadam_epp on June 20th, 2011 04:54 pm (UTC)
That drawing looks like Kubo started it seriously and said "Fuck this" suddenly and dumped a jar of ink over it.

As for the next chapter, I've stopped trying to predict this series. I'd like it if Tsukishima did turn out to be related to everyone, personally, just because I'd find the twist funny.
_debbiechan__debbiechan_ on June 20th, 2011 04:58 pm (UTC)

The drawing disturbs the shit out of me, not gonna lie.
sleepwalkersleepwalkerrrr on June 20th, 2011 05:06 pm (UTC)
It took me a while to figure out what it was.

Now when you do care to explain to us wtf it is ? :)
_debbiechan_: alejandro_debbiechan_ on June 20th, 2011 05:12 pm (UTC)

It's a fist punching through the drawing. You can see Ichigo there but whether he's just an onlooker or whether the fist is punching through something inside HIM or is PART of him I can't really tell. It's really disturbing--like it's part of his FB maybe but it seems like a big FU from the art to the audience. It seems so scribbly--like something an emo kid would do in a notebook and nothing at all like what a traditional manga-ka would do at all. It's so freaking weird.
(no subject) - sleepwalkerrrr on June 20th, 2011 05:16 pm (UTC) (Expand)
mezzo_marinaiomezzo_marinaio on June 20th, 2011 05:54 pm (UTC)
Re: next chapter

In the first few pages, the camera will slowly pan around Ichigo to show us that yes, indeed, Tsukishima is still on the Kurosaki couch.

Then it will cut to Yuzu, who will be making cute, moe faces of worry and confusion at Ichigo.

The camera will then slowly proceed along the floor to reach Tsukishima's feet... it will slowly trail over his legs and linger wistfully on his crotch area... it will give us a close up of his chest, his sexy chin, his lower lip, and then SUDDENLY!

It will be revealed that Yuzu has offered him tea, and that he's DRINKING IT.

*shock*

By this time we'll have reached page 15.

In the last few pages, Tsukishima will slowly, slowly bring the cup to his mouth.

The cliffhanger being: WILL he swallow or not?

Tune in next week to find out! :OOOO
Kim!: Yorozuyaspartydragon on June 20th, 2011 05:56 pm (UTC)
You win!
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Kim!: Nose Ponies!!!!spartydragon on June 20th, 2011 05:54 pm (UTC)
Looks like Ichigo's doing some variant of a kamehameha there. But more artsy.

As for the twitter musings... interesting. He might just be talking about music, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's been getting some criticism (hopefully constructive) and is mulling over how to approach it.
andrew_jpandrew_jp on June 20th, 2011 08:11 pm (UTC)
Ichigo's not going to start a fight if it can possibly be avoided; his sisters are close by and he doesn't really understand his own abilities or Tsukishima's, so the risk of collateral damage is too great.
_debbiechan_: Bookman_debbiechan_ on June 21st, 2011 01:55 am (UTC)

I'm pretty sure he's not going to fight . We just HAD a big fight.
(no subject) - deathlike on June 22nd, 2011 07:44 am (UTC) (Expand)
Super Nintendo Chalmers: Sexy long-haired Ichigostrawberries_85 on June 21st, 2011 01:19 am (UTC)
Whatever it is Kubo's thinking about, I hope something positive can come out of in the end. Something just doesn't feel right about Bleach lately, I feel almost like there's less love put into what he's writing. I really hope Kubo feels better soon. :(
oh gallant piglet,aizome on June 21st, 2011 01:19 am (UTC)
"Karin's in the kitchen with Shi Shi .... there will be unprecedented bonding over food"

A lot of these options made me LOL, but this one especially did. It would be so completely OOC for Karin. I had to laugh. XD

Also the hillbilly and Ririn the filler chicken ones are golden.
memajuve on June 21st, 2011 10:25 am (UTC)
kubo seems to understand that not everyone approves of how bleach is turning out at the moment and as a writer he can eaily change it to be different again. but i get the feeling he doesn't want to because he is either stubborn or has too much pride. i certainly hope he doesn't get too depressed by it though.
lets be honest a lot of people want to see more familiar faces like rukia, shinigami or others. as readers we can always point out mistakes more easily because we understood bleach to be like this or that. but its the writer who really knows what bleach is about. right now though, i get the feeling kubo wants to convince us of certain things. like orihime was not a failure the last arc and now is ramming it down into us. its hard to simply accept after years of that arc.
jpblackjpblack on June 21st, 2011 01:00 pm (UTC)
I hate to be "that guy," but the second option in the poll isn't exactly unreasonable. Sometimes, some exposition is needed. Considering Ichigo doesn't recognize his cousin(not unfounded; sometimes family is estranged).
_debbiechan_: Bookman_debbiechan_ on June 21st, 2011 02:02 pm (UTC)

Actually that's the one I'm looking forward to the most. I figure no one's told Ichigo (neither Chad nor Orihime?) about Tsukishima's weird ability so Ichigo is probably going to be confuzzled and quiet while Tsuki gets to actually talk for a bit... and I've been dying for Tsuki to DISH IT OUT SINCE FOREVER. We need more from his side of things.

The Jump!Bang drawing came out no more than 3 wks ago, I believe. I'm not quite sure. It was recent.
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