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14 December 2010 @ 05:10 pm
Youth Ordinace Bill 156  


Dearest _debbiechan_ ask me to post this...


It's all over the place... I still honestly I don't even know where to begin with the Japan's Tokyo government whatisthisfuckery. Kubo-sensei posted about the TAF (Tokyo International Animation Fair) 2011 that was boycott for next year as business and companies are being affected: 10 Manga Publishers to Boycott Tokyo Anime Fair


Later to follow with the passing of the Japan's Youth Ordinance Bill, the bill itself affects major business of Tokyo's metropolitan capital. The bill limit and restrict artistic values and freedom of expression for animators and publisher as you do know that anime-manga-games are Japan's culture.

From Japan Times:

A Tokyo Metropolitan Assembly panel Monday passed a controversial bill to toughen regulations on the sale of comics and animation containing depictions of "extreme" sexual acts.

The bill to revise the metropolitan government's ordinance seeking sound upbringing of youth will likely clear the assembly's plenary session Wednesday for enactment.

Amid complaints from the publishing industry that the bill could violate freedom of expression and stifle creativity, a clause was added demanding the assembly give consideration to artistic and social expressions and apply the ordinance carefully.

Subject to curbs under the bill will be depictions of rapes and other penal offenses and those "unduly lauding or exaggerating" incestuous affairs.

At Monday's meeting of the assembly's general affairs committee, the bill gained approval from members of the Democratic Party of Japan, the Liberal Democratic Party and New Komeito, while those of the Japanese Communist Party and another minor caucus opposed it.



Japan Times: http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20101214a2.html
Japan Today: http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/govt-to-allow-unlicensed-use-of-copyrighted-works

This will certain affect Shounen Jump and other publishing companies; of course it also affects the youth and younger generation, which it's our generation.

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From ANN:

The full Tokyo Metropolitan Assembly approved the government's revised bill to amend the Youth Healthy Development Ordinance on Wednesday afternoon.

The current ordinance already prevents the sale and renting of "harmful publications" — materials that are "sexually stimulating, encourages cruelty, and/or may compel suicide or criminal behavior" to people under the age of 18. Bill 156 would require the industry to also regulate "manga, anime, and other images (except for real-life photography)" that "unjustifiably glorify or exaggerate" certain sexual or pseudo sexual acts. Another section of the revised bill would allow the government to directly regulate the above images if the depicted acts are also "considered to be excessively disrupting of social order" such as rape.

The assembly also approved a non-binding supplemental resolution urging newly designated harmful publications to be carefully regulated, with the work's merits based on artistic, social, and other criteria to be taken into account in the evaluation process.

The voluntary self-regulation clauses will go into effect on April 1 of next year, and the restrictions on sales and renting will go into effect on July 1.



ETA: Full Tokyo Assembly Passes Youth Ordinance Bill


News travels bloody fast, Spank you astridstarr00:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gki-de1I98pzkhVt_AoDLyTUPEAw?docId=CNG.08de11db341f822637c427df96d6839a.711

http://news.ph.msn.com/lifestyle/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4520127


UPDATE from Japan Times:

Ordinance passed against manga 'extreme sex'


The Tokyo Metropolitan Assembly enacted an ordinance Wednesday to toughen regulations on the sale of manga and animation containing "extreme" depictions of sexual acts, despite claims from writers and publishers that it could breach freedom of expression and stifle creativity.

Publishers reacted strongly, threatening to withdraw from the 2011 Tokyo International Anime Fair, which is sponsored by the metropolitan government.

The ordinance calls on the industry to "self-regulate" to prevent people under age 18 from purchasing or accessing manga and "anime" containing depictions of rape and other sex crimes and those "unduly lauding or exaggerating" incest.

Manga the metropolitan government deems particularly malicious will be designated under the ordinance as "unhealthy books" and publishers will be banned from selling them to young people.

But the metropolitan government also added a clause stating it will give consideration to artistic and social expression and apply the ordinance carefully, although the clause is not legally binding.

The self-regulation rule takes effect April 1 and the sales restrictions July 1.

Last Friday, 10 major publishers, including Kodansha Ltd., Shueisha Inc. and Kadokawa Group Publishing Co., issued a statement saying they will refuse to take part in the internationally popular event slated to be held next March.



http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20101216a4.html

Explanations and Japan Culture (De-cultured), Spank you spartydragon

http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?p=3747964#post3747964
 
 
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ayonoi: black nyanko by chitterbeeayonoi on December 14th, 2010 10:26 pm (UTC)
Actually, the Youth Ordinance Bill was passed by the advisory panel on Monday, the full assembly gets to vote on it on Wednesday (Japan time). The day just started so we will find out later tonight or tomorrow. I am also monitoring the situation, if the bill passes, I believe it will have a chilling effect in the industry as a whole not only eroge. One thing that I wondered about was what would be the impact of it on Comiket and doujinshi creators.

It is interesting to see 10 big companies protest by not going to TAF, I am not sure if they are doing it for freedom of expression (like the mangakas) but the response is welcome.
_debbiechan_: let there be porn_debbiechan_ on December 14th, 2010 11:18 pm (UTC)

If Comiket is cancelled, it can get another venue outside Toyko, can't it? Even at this late date?
(no subject) - ayonoi on December 14th, 2010 11:49 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Grenat: Fightescarboucle on December 14th, 2010 10:33 pm (UTC)
As I told deb, Szayel would SO NOT pass that ban _o/
♀*La Muerte Chiquita*♀la_kalaka on December 14th, 2010 10:37 pm (UTC)
This crazy, this is like one step backwards, to regulate the contents with a subjetive pov just because the doesn0t approve of that,this go against the freedom of expressions of the authors. and the freedom of people to see and choose what they want to read.

nehalenianehalenia on December 14th, 2010 10:52 pm (UTC)
So is this something that will affect only Tokyo or all of Japan? It sure sounds like there's a huge outcry about this, though, so maybe it won't pass. Gah, I wonder if that means that manga, as well as anime now, won't be able to show "real" blood? (And yes, I too am wondering how this might affect doujinshi sales.)

I'd really like to know what brought this legislation on, but I suspect we'd need someone who lives there and knows the local and national politics better to weigh in on that.
Brad C: hypnos - nemurudeathlike on December 14th, 2010 11:02 pm (UTC)
It affects the entire Japan... Tokyo is capital of Japan, epicenter of world economy.
(no subject) - spartydragon on December 15th, 2010 02:51 am (UTC) (Expand)
oh gallant piglet,: WONDERHATaizome on December 14th, 2010 11:00 pm (UTC)
Soul Society Breaking News:

Living world Japanese government intervenes on behalf of Nemu Kuortsuchi, re-banishing her father, Mayuri, to The Maggots' Nest.



But seriously, this is bizarre.
nehalenianehalenia on December 14th, 2010 11:20 pm (UTC)
Oddly, that's what I thought of as well. That Mayuri would probably be the Bleach character most affected by this ruling. XD Tho I suppose that depends on how draconian the ruling is. If it turns manga into something only 8 year olds think is edgy, then... wow. Way to screw up both your economy AND a big part of your culture, Japan.
(no subject) - (Anonymous) on December 15th, 2010 05:00 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - aizome on December 15th, 2010 05:53 am (UTC) (Expand)
_debbiechan_: SZAYEL JEALOUSY_debbiechan_ on December 14th, 2010 11:16 pm (UTC)

What I'm curious about, Brad, and I saw you arguing the point with Chronus in the BA thread, is to what extent this law is likely to be enforced. As we know with the crack-down on scanlations, there were some changes but the culture of manga scans prevailed.

As it is, I do believe fangirls will find a way to get their gay prons easily. To what extent WSJ is affected--well if the publishers aren't reigning in "artistic license" then sales of the magazines will go on as usual, ne?

Curiouser and curiouser.

Szayel should be the poster boy for the protest against this bill.
Brad C: hypnos - nemurudeathlike on December 15th, 2010 12:27 am (UTC)
Japan major exports of manga-anime-manga, basically where I'm getting at it's that the entire industry as a whole has been gutted. If the companies were to move away from Tokyo, it be astronomical within its own country; it's just something not feasibly possible.
peca_06peca_06 on December 14th, 2010 11:48 pm (UTC)
I wonder if it has something to do with America or other countries pressuring them, now that there stuff is more widespread, as well as forces from the inside. It is really strange though. Why now? I'm really disappointed at yet another form of oppressing artists and creative self expression etc, being Japan one of the last bastions for that, this makes me feel like a like a ton of bricks just fell on my head T_____T. It is all very subjective, I don't care for rapes or things like that, but what would be too much for them? ... It always starts like that and ends restricting more than you think...
taliesin_cariad: ayanami reitaliesin_cariad on December 14th, 2010 11:57 pm (UTC)
...while those of the Japanese Communist Party...opposed it

It's obvious. We must all become Commies.



o/
Kit-chan: hacking the internetchiave_trust on December 15th, 2010 12:17 am (UTC)
Considering that youth culture (anime-manga-games) is a major export of Japan, they're - maybe they're wanting to present a better image to the world, but I'm wondering to what extent this will be enforced and I'm worried about potential chilling effects. I know of some manga and games (not just eroge) that would be greatly affected by this law, it seems.
sombra29 on December 15th, 2010 12:25 am (UTC)
Your icon is pretty cool,where is it from? :D
(no subject) - chiave_trust on December 15th, 2010 12:57 am (UTC) (Expand)
sombra29 on December 15th, 2010 12:23 am (UTC)
OH NO THIS AGAIN D :
Urg,this is so painful to look at.I...still don't want to believe it...so I'm just going to quote an user from Japanator who made a very spot-on comment instead...

"How does it make sense to destroy an industry in the middle of a recession?"
Maria: toshokan_sensou_badgereynardine on December 15th, 2010 12:31 am (UTC)
I'm of two minds on this. On one hand, if I did have children under the age of 18, I wouldn't be too keen on them having easy access to explicit sexual or especially rape manga. Keep it for the adults: put it on the top shelf or behind the counter or whatever. Not that it will stop the most determined, but a measure like that would probably be enough to mollify concerned parents.

(The incest stuff...well, I'm not sure why that would incite young people to sleep with their siblings in real life? C'mon.)

OTOH, this law seems way too vague and could be too widely interpreted. I can see why the publishing companies and artists are concerned. It would be far too easy to abuse.

尊: Rukia - Jigokuhen Trailerlazymew on December 15th, 2010 01:01 am (UTC)
I thought the adult manga are already usually placed at separate sections in the bookstore and wrapped using tight plastic cover to indicate that they contain certain non-child-safe materials? :S I've also heard that the Japanese society adheres to this age-restriction rule quite well. I'm not sure if the trend has changed, though...like you said, "Not that it will stop the most determined" ^_^;
(no subject) - spartydragon on December 15th, 2010 02:54 am (UTC) (Expand)
(Anonymous) on December 15th, 2010 01:40 am (UTC)
I've been following this bill since I first heard about it a little while back. It's quite upsetting. I read (I don't have a link so it could easily be false) but that Jump basically said they're going to publish what they want anyways, studio Ghibli said basically the same also. I also read that a couple of BL authors were already told they couldn't/shouldn't use high school uniforms.
This would mean that most series wouldn't be able to be sold at their usual spots or would be put further away with the rest of the R-18 stuff. And since more youths buy most of these mangas it could ultimately cause the collapse of the industry.
Reading through the bill most Jump series would be affected by this which I would hate if my fav series were to go downhill because of this.
Another problem is that the bill is pretty vague so either they could be pretty lenient or abuse the heck out of it. Unfortunately, I think its going to pass which is a shame.
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astridstarr00astridstarr00 on December 15th, 2010 01:57 am (UTC)
*Wishes there was an edit button*

The problem with this is that I believe that Japan doesn't really have the same rating system as we do. So basically its E or R-18. And a lot of Jump series falls under a lot of the things listed in the bill. If jump were to go R-18 it wouldn't sell since the majority of those who buy it are teens, and if it follows the bill's criteria then it would be heavily censored.
(no subject) - deathlike on December 15th, 2010 02:03 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - astridstarr00 on December 15th, 2010 02:13 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - aizome on December 15th, 2010 02:44 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - astridstarr00 on December 15th, 2010 02:51 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - aizome on December 15th, 2010 02:55 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - astridstarr00 on December 15th, 2010 03:06 am (UTC) (Expand)
astridstarr00astridstarr00 on December 15th, 2010 02:03 am (UTC)
This is quite upsetting. I'm not too worried about yaoi since most are sold as 18+ anyways. But I'm definitely worried about the shounen series. I don't want mangakas, especially Kubo's, work to suffer. Other demographics (i.e seinen & josei) could be affected by this also since I think most aren't sold with a 18+ label & a lot of teens buy those also.
Issues: Orihime-surprisedlovely_masoka on December 15th, 2010 02:15 am (UTC)
I don't think I really understand...but how would Bleach and One Piece be affected by this thing?

Though I guess in Bleach Mayuri and Szayle would be affected. Just what could they do to already established characters like that?

Edited at 2010-12-15 02:16 am (UTC)
Brad C: hypnos - nemurudeathlike on December 15th, 2010 03:12 am (UTC)
It affects them either way, Shounen Jump/Shueisha publishing company, therefore it also affects Bleach and One Piece who published under them as a parent company.